Volume [Mr Lovenstein]
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How can we set volume of music, SFX and voice separately, in games but not in movies?
You could on laserdisk, but dvd got more popular
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I feel like the real issue, is that we only get one volume bar. If it was normal to define both the minimal and maximal volume setting and have the players stretch the given dynamic range into that then it would all be good.
It's called compression, and most players have it in the settings somewhere. Quick and dirty is to up the volume in vlc to like 120% and lower it in system.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
Alot of it is... pretentiousness?
Like, there's a lot of high-brow thinking in the movie industry where stuff is mixed for movie theaters. You know, theaters that have good surround speaker setups, but also turn the volume way too loud. It's "as its meant to be experienced" if you ask the Hollywood producers. I think Netflix and more small-screen oriented producers are better about this, where even surround mixes are much more reasonable.
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It was great in cinema. It's terrible at home.
Frankly annoying as hell that shows and movies can basically only be enjoyed in a cinema or with headphones.
Where's the audio equivalent of HDR?
Irionically HDR for video is new and a mess, but audio has long been "high dynamic" range, which is why its so awful in non-perfect listening environments.
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My ass plays sound too, but nobody want to pay to hear it.
They may as well just sell them without speakers at all. I don't need specifixally high quality sound, just not-garbage sound.
Are you willing to pay through the nose?
Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel is a hard engineering problem. Read: expensive.
There are some crazy schemes that have been tried, like embedding a piezioelectric layer on top of the display, but the reality is no one wants to pay a grand or two for that when they could just plug in a soundbar. What TV makers should really do is bundle soundbars with the TV in a combo pack, which I think they already (sometimes) do.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
Just run the audio through a dynamic range compressor. Then everything will be just as loud as the commercials.
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
Sometimes there's also a random high pitched buzz in the background that's louder than anything else for one whole scene. How heard would it be to just remove that frequency range or maybe see that it is louder than every other scene?
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
#High Dynamic Range
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My ass plays sound too, but nobody want to pay to hear it.
They may as well just sell them without speakers at all. I don't need specifixally high quality sound, just not-garbage sound.
Sounds like you need a simple soundbar then
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Source/secret panel: https://m.tapas.io/episode/3005249
Subtitles on, dumbass.
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Subtitles on, dumbass.
Some of us can't use subtitles. I want to actually watch the cinematography and the actors. If text is on-screen I can't not read it
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Because a video game is a program that can change it's behavior as it's running.
A video is a recording. It's already been recorded.
You can record multiple channels, you already have left and right recorded separately. Other channels could exist for different things, it would just need a standard to follow to be useful
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Subtitles on, dumbass.
Blind people don't exist.
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But you better enjoy our voice actors, we have about 3!
Yippykayay, Schweinebacke
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Some of us can't use subtitles. I want to actually watch the cinematography and the actors. If text is on-screen I can't not read it
Well since you're obviously into film, you should invest in a proper Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround setup to give you options. You can either turn up the center channel, put it in "dialog" mode, or enable dynamic range compression (night mode).
Regardless, tou're not getting the full experience if you don't have a surround sound setup. Ideally you should buy a receiver and hand pick your component speakers, but even a sound bar is better than TV speakers, so long as it's from a well-known brand and has up firing drivers in both the front and rear. If the third number in the number of speakers is 4 or higher (ex 5.1.4), then you're good to go.
This applies to everybody reading this, not just lagoon8622. All your dialog problems are being caused by your TV speakers.
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Right now TNG. I'm re-watching it with my fiancé. The sound of the ship whooshing past is deafening.
It's been a minute since I've seen the rest of the shows. So I don't remember how good their mixing is.
Lol, I was actually thinking of using TNG as a positive example! Patrick Stewart is trained in Shakespearean drama and enunciates as such. Very pleasant to listen to.
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Are you willing to pay through the nose?
Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel is a hard engineering problem. Read: expensive.
There are some crazy schemes that have been tried, like embedding a piezioelectric layer on top of the display, but the reality is no one wants to pay a grand or two for that when they could just plug in a soundbar. What TV makers should really do is bundle soundbars with the TV in a combo pack, which I think they already (sometimes) do.
Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel
That's part of the problem, isn't it? They're trying to make TVs into an art piece instead of a functional appliance.
We were ok with fatass CRT sets when that's all that was available. When LCD became standard, most people were happy about that. Now that bezel-less TVs are a thing, apparently we can no longer go back to anything but a 65" iPad.
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I don't need high-powered, audiophile-grade surround speakers. Just maybe something a little better than a landline phone. There's a pretty wide spectrum, and TVs come with shit tier audio. They don't have to, but they do.
That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.
"One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.
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That's what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.
"One size fits all" sucks, it's better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.
It doesn't need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.