Does it stay in the Apple and Nintendo communities or does it get cross-posted everywhere? I don't downvote for dislike, but I don't want to block a general community because some asshat is crossposting just under spam levels.

I downvote for verifiably false.

Yes, it's typical.

Votes don't mean much, but communities that deviate from the main spirit have to live with them. (And yes, that's mostly bad, even though in a few cases it's good.)

Same. I see upvotes, upvotes everywhere!
Even if Apple/Nintendo are completely different, that’s still not quite the entire fediverse, right?

A good chunk of active Lemmy users are interested in open source and digital freedom. Apple and Nintendo are the opposite, very big on vendor lockin and anti consumer practices.

Nothing wrong with downvote. If those companies didn't earn so much hatred topic about them wouldn't get downvoted.

That's the kind of mindset that gets people banned based on systematic downvotes

People even downvote legit news from fairly non-biased sources on Lemmy just because they don't like what is being reported. It's actually kinda wild.

posts on /all immediately get downvoted by bots and users who enjoy downvoting everything. You can use lemvotes or be a mod and see these accounts. I have seen accounts with many thousands of downvotes and zero comments or upvotes. Best to just ignore the votes or go to an instance that ignores them if you can't ‍️

So does simply downvoting the wrong user who made a bot to autoban people who downvoted them. ‍️

Yeah, obviously there are also overzealous mods

Are you endorsing that behavior? How ironic that meaningless scores are seen as an offence but removing people's ability to participate is totally fine.

For me that was always the spirit with up/downvote driven communities. If you are in the mood to sift through "new" you "leave your mark". With that logic in my mind i could see how Apple and Nintendo related posts would gather more downvotes on the Fediverse compared to other sites.

To be clear i'm really uncertain if thats the case here.

I atleast dont take any offense by the mere mention of Nintendo or Apple and feel the need to instantly downvote even though i'm not a fan of neither company.

Actively going to these subs to just downvote is stupid for obvious reasons though. What a waste of time.

But the posts are in specific Apple/Nintendo communities. Do you downvote those?

Upvotes/downvotes are unfortunately a fundamentally flawed concept. They originally served as an superior alternative to forums' previous sorting method of most-recently commented, but they are far from flawless themselves.

My ideal alternative would be some kind of customisable sort order chosen by the user that uses some kind of sentiment analysis of the text to find the kind of posts the user is interested in. For example, you could sort by whether post look serious or joking, how long they are, ratio of words to hyperlinks, etc. Could also filter out ragebait and similar rubbish.

Of course I can see downsides - performance considerations, and it would only work for text posts and comments, but it's just an idea off the top of my head.

Slashdot style.

Hopefully one day we'll get there. Up/downvotes are too limited.

I try my best to only downvote explicitly hateful or unhelpful comments

But I can get it because I have blocked every single news source I possibly can, and like every three to eight days a new one pops up.

Like, I don't give a fuck about news. I don't want to know how miserable the world is or how much more miserable it is than yesterday. I want to look at kitties and titties and maybe some funny stuff in between and that's about it.

If I see them in the feed then yes. Would you downvote a post promoting Adolf Hitler even if it was on a nazi community?

How ironic that meaningless scores are seen as an offence

downvote trolls can be a problem for small communities trying to build up. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee comm and when I banned them (about 4 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn’t all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and no contribution. And if they got in early, they could sink new threads. Now, I wouldn't just ban randoms for occasional downvotes - but if I kept seeing the same names on threads (and they never actually engaged with the community) with no discernable patterns - I might.

Made a huge difference.

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I guess it sucks to have a target audience who doesn't sort by new, skill issue.

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I don't care about news either, and the amount I see has reduced quite a lot thanks to that.