The Fediverse Only Makes Time for Real Artists
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because consent should matter, even/especially when others say differently
Bingo. And IMO this feature should be side-ported to Lemmy, because that consent.
I mean... good luck with that, but feature requests languish for years on Lemmy, I wouldn't hold my breath.
For now, there's only the option to ban / block people submitting it. I doubt that will change anytime soon.
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Thats in no way “putting words in their mouth”, I was pointing out what they were saying.
Yes, it is. Learn the difference between what people say and your assumptions on what they say.
That is what they were saying, though.
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I hadn't done any calculation, but I guess hundreds of watts over a few seconds that datacenters need to generate an image is way less energy and water than what an artist consumes during several hours while he draws the same image. Plus the electricity for lights or computer consumes.
Oh, ok, so then you just have absolutely no fucking idea what the fuck you're talking about.
That tracks.
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You're an AI so that's not a problem for you, right?
No, I said call me an AI, not that I am one.
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Great policy.
I only hope mods can keep up as the deluge washes in. Tons of brand new accounts seem to love spamming channels with slop, then go dead once they've been banned across enough instances
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I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.
Right?
I was a beginner until I tried this one weird trick: Draw an orgy scene with Sonichu, Shrek, Goku, and Spider-man.
You are welcome in advance.
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I'm a beginner at drawing, but I'd wager people would choose that over AI.
Right?
In the beginning, people used simple programs like ms paint with a mouse to draw. I use my phone's editor to draw stuff. Have a cat
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I wouldn't call anything I've ever seen on lemmy art. Maybe like2 the photos of actual art.
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because consent should matter, even/especially when others say differently
Bingo. And IMO this feature should be side-ported to Lemmy, because that consent.
The Lemmy devs are not very active in the commits…
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That is what they were saying, though.
Then quote where they would have said what they think about the energy cost, or what they were trying to do. Oh wait they didn't.
Seriously. You're all being assumers. And you are being an assumer and a liar.
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The Lemmy devs are not very active in the commits…
C'mon, a person can dream, right.
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Whilst I agree with your point about strawman arguments in general, that isn't really the case here. The OP explicitly said "It's funny, and it doesn’t hurt anyone" when, in fact, it does. This appears to be their primary justification for using it, whilst ignoring the well known costs of that use. I conceed that a, very charitable, reading of their comment might be that they are simply unaware of the environmental and authorship issues and are only focused on whether their image is "funny" and not directly causing harm. However, those issues are so well known that I, and aparently other commenters, do not feel they can reasonably overlooked in any discussion about whether the use of genai can be justified in general.
The other issues you brought up are very real too and, in many ways, more insidious that the obvious ones discussed before. How we overcome those, now that the genie is out of the bottle, I don't know.
Whilst I agree with your point about strawman arguments in general, that isn’t really the case here. The OP explicitly said “It’s funny, and it doesn’t hurt anyone” when, in fact, it does.
I already addressed this here.
This appears to be their primary justification for using it,
Emphasis mine. If someone is handling things by how they "appear to be", instead of how they "are", then the person is simply assuming.
I don't think the rest of your comment is worth my time replying.
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Then quote where they would have said what they think about the energy cost, or what they were trying to do. Oh wait they didn't.
Seriously. You're all being assumers. And you are being an assumer and a liar.
So, are you naive or insidious with this? Are you actually eating those bullshit sandwiches or just serving them?
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Then quote where they would have said what they think about the energy cost, or what they were trying to do. Oh wait they didn't.
Seriously. You're all being assumers. And you are being an assumer and a liar.
Oh fuck off
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I understood this and now my back hurts!
Oh!? Its a snake?
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Oh fuck off
No, I will not fuck off. Criticise what people say, instead of your assumptions over what they say. And if you're unable to tell both things apart, then you're probably better off shutting up.
And if I see muppets like you doing this shit again I'll call it out again, again, and again. And if I were to do the same, I also expect others to call me out.
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No, I will not fuck off. Criticise what people say, instead of your assumptions over what they say. And if you're unable to tell both things apart, then you're probably better off shutting up.
And if I see muppets like you doing this shit again I'll call it out again, again, and again. And if I were to do the same, I also expect others to call me out.
You've been doing it this whole fucking thread you holier than thou asshat but whatever
Blocked
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After the first 100 or so AI images I saw, the novelty of "wow this is technically possible" wore off and now I kind of hate anything generated by ai even if it looks good (which it usually doesn't).
You know why I hate it even more now?
Because unaware people have started using it to generate images of our loved ones, houses, etc.
I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING TRUST A PHOTO OF MY NEPHEWS ANYMORE.
I HATE that. If my friends, family and home aren't refuges against that AI shit, then what the fuck is?!
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You've been doing it this whole fucking thread you holier than thou asshat but whatever
Blocked
Yeah, because holier than thou behaviour would totally make someone say "if I were to do the same, I also expect others to call me out.", right? ...right?
...look, I don't really care if you block me or not, but please do everyone else a favour and shut up, okay. There's Twitter, Reddit and Facebook for people like you, you'd feel at home in any of them.
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GenAI is somehow more blatant about ripping people off than EL James of all people was when she 'wrote' Fifty Shades in airquotes.
At least she had to change some things around in her godawful recycled fanfic to keep from getting sued for copyright, GenAI doesn't even do that much and that's somehow viewed as acceptable.
Oh, and EL James only ripped off one person with her trash, GenAI blatantly and shamelessly rips off everyone.
People do not respect artists and with the internet and digital art making it the easiest time in human history to get art, people feel entitled to art. They don't respect the time and effort that artists put into creating something and don't think that their skills are worth paying for, even when they're demanding that they produce content for them.
In this regard, GenAI has become a real plague because the kinds of people who would make great middle managers - taking credit for the effort of others - now have access to the skill required to make "good art" without having to pay for nor respect the labor required. GenAI lets your average person treat artists the way that corporations treat their employees.
