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Hey #ActivityPub friends.

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  • julian@fietkau.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    julian@fietkau.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    julian@fietkau.social
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    @julian@activitypub.space Just to note, @Edent's blog doesn't run on ActivityBot, it uses the WordPress plugin, so implementation details there are (presumably) not up for discussion here. But ActivityBot improvements would percolate to @colours, @openbenches etc.

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    • julian@fietkau.socialJ julian@fietkau.social

      @julian@activitypub.space Just to note, @Edent's blog doesn't run on ActivityBot, it uses the WordPress plugin, so implementation details there are (presumably) not up for discussion here. But ActivityBot improvements would percolate to @colours, @openbenches etc.

      julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @julian@fietkau.social ah 😅 then it should support 1b12 depending on configuration! 🙂

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

        It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

        https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

        It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

        Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

        samedwards@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Edent Not a feature, but a bug report. The ActivityPub spec doesn't spell it out super clearly, but I'm pretty sure that an Actor's Outbox should be a collection of Activities, not Objects like the single-file server uses.

        So the outbox should have "type" => "Create", and the Object will specify the type it is

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        • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

          @Edent Not a feature, but a bug report. The ActivityPub spec doesn't spell it out super clearly, but I'm pretty sure that an Actor's Outbox should be a collection of Activities, not Objects like the single-file server uses.

          So the outbox should have "type" => "Create", and the Object will specify the type it is

          edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
          (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
            (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

            samedwards@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

            > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

            And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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            • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

              @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

              > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

              And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

              edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @samedwards got it 🙂

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              • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

                @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

                > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

                And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

                edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

                So does this look right to you?
                http://example.viii.fi/outbox

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

                  So does this look right to you?
                  http://example.viii.fi/outbox

                  samedwards@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @Edent Yup, that looks like what I'd expect to see, and mirrors Mastodon as well, ie. https://mastodon.social/users/Edent/outbox?page=true

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

                    It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

                    https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

                    It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

                    Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

                    threkk@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

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                    • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                      @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

                      edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                        @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

                          It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

                          https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

                          It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

                          Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

                          silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Edent

                          https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                          It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

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                          • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                            @Edent

                            https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                            It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

                            edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @silverpill good spot!
                            I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                            Or should it be something else?

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              @silverpill good spot!
                              I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                              Or should it be something else?

                              julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @edent@mastodon.social I've learned that it should be excluded altogether, and not a null value

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                              • silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @julian @Edent Yep

                                (although I think we should bring back null)

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                                • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                                  @julian @Edent Yep

                                  (although I think we should bring back null)

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                                  @silverpill @julian @general
                                  Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    @silverpill @julian @general
                                    Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

                                    julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @edent@mastodon.social <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=42a4d91a3c1" title="🤷" /> I was passing null around like candy but some implementations choke on that. In general, tolerance of odd values in cc is well handled, but I would just omit or send [].

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                                    • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                                      @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

                                      edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @threkk the bot can now send Delete messages. They're processed successfully by Mastodon.social - so I assume they work elsewhere 🙂

                                      Will have a think about editing.

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