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Hey #ActivityPub friends.

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  • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

    @Edent Not a feature, but a bug report. The ActivityPub spec doesn't spell it out super clearly, but I'm pretty sure that an Actor's Outbox should be a collection of Activities, not Objects like the single-file server uses.

    So the outbox should have "type" => "Create", and the Object will specify the type it is

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    @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
    (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
      (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

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      @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

      > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

      And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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      • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

        @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

        > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

        And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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        @samedwards got it 🙂

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        • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

          @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

          > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

          And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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          @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

          So does this look right to you?
          http://example.viii.fi/outbox

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

            So does this look right to you?
            http://example.viii.fi/outbox

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            @Edent Yup, that looks like what I'd expect to see, and mirrors Mastodon as well, ie. https://mastodon.social/users/Edent/outbox?page=true

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

              It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

              https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

              It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

              Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

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              @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

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              • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

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                @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                  @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

                    It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

                    https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

                    It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

                    Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

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                    @Edent

                    https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                    It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

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                    • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                      @Edent

                      https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                      It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

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                      @silverpill good spot!
                      I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                      Or should it be something else?

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @silverpill good spot!
                        I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                        Or should it be something else?

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                        @edent@mastodon.social I've learned that it should be excluded altogether, and not a null value

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                          @julian @Edent Yep

                          (although I think we should bring back null)

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                          • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                            @julian @Edent Yep

                            (although I think we should bring back null)

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                            @silverpill @julian @general
                            Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              @silverpill @julian @general
                              Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

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                              @edent@mastodon.social <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=42a4d91a3c1" title="🤷" /> I was passing null around like candy but some implementations choke on that. In general, tolerance of odd values in cc is well handled, but I would just omit or send [].

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                              • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                                @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

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                                @threkk the bot can now send Delete messages. They're processed successfully by Mastodon.social - so I assume they work elsewhere 🙂

                                Will have a think about editing.

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