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  3. So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

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  • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

    @haverholm @julian
    I saw some amazing sites people have built on their Hubs.

    BTW ... what is the magic that this thread is located in the activitypub.space #nodebb forum? Didn't the conversation start with a common Mastodon post?

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    #38

    @morph Re: magic sauce โ€” I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

    Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

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    • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

      @morph Re: magic sauce โ€” I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

      Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

      morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @haverholm @julian
      Indeed it is. Viva La Fรถderation! ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿป

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      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

        @morph Re: magic sauce โ€” I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

        Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

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        @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

          @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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          @morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too" ๐Ÿคฃ

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          • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

            @woe2you LOL, yeah. I know the block editor was what launched ClassicPress to begin with!

            I'll be honest, part of me would've probably forked WP before v3, when it was just a lean little blog engine. @davidgerard

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            This is my platonic ideal of a WP install file, courtesy of the Internet Archive's Wayback machine.

            I wish somebody would just fork at this version, only implementing security updates between then and now.
            @woe2you @davidgerard

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            • haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @julian I knew vaguely of the NodeBB AP implementation, thanks for the reminder ๐Ÿ™‚ And the follow issue was easily fixed! @morph

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              • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
                @haverholm

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                • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
                  But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

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                  • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                    @nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: https://proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11/the-microsoft-doom-loop/ Giving it a read now.

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                    @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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                    • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                      @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                      Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

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                      @haverholm Unfortunately, I'm not tech savvy, and I rely on my IT person's advice. From what I can tell, Libre Office has incorporated Apple's old Pages program, and that has taken on AI. However, Microsoft has now added a button to undo the AI function. I guess scathing critiques are useful.

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                      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                        @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                        Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

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                        @haverholm

                        I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

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                        • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                          @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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                          @nspsegal No worries, I found it easily enough.

                          I've had similar issues copy/pasting recently. Don't know if it's some security sandboxing of the clipboard that's acting up?

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                          • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                            @haverholm

                            I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

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                            @nspsegal I'll join you in hoping!

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                              @haverholm @davidgerard@circumstances.run Any advice on exporting Wordpress sites to an open format of some sort? I understand the "export all" function generates XML files, but how easy is it to retrieve everything from those after choosing some alternative platform? I have a small number of blog posts and some of them are precious so I've no desire to start afresh. Obviously I have the text (in Scrivener) but it's mostly about images and formatting.

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                              • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                @julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

                                Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

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                                @julian Oh, ho ho. That's right, I forget we can't have nice things: https://lemmy.zip/comment/23379174

                                (Tldr, Ghost is being coded with Claude)

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                                • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                  So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

                                  I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

                                  #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
                                  cc @davidgerard

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                                  Follow-up post, a review of federated CMSes that can take over long running sites before Wordpress turns to slop.

                                  https://kbin.earth/m/fediverse@lemmy.zip/t/2330341/Recommendations-for-federated-CMS-alternatives-to-Wordpress

                                  cc @davidgerard @nspsegal @julian @morph @elfin

                                  #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse

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