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Hey #ActivityPub friends.

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  • julian@fietkau.socialJ julian@fietkau.social

    @julian@activitypub.space Just to note, @Edent's blog doesn't run on ActivityBot, it uses the WordPress plugin, so implementation details there are (presumably) not up for discussion here. But ActivityBot improvements would percolate to @colours, @openbenches etc.

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    @julian@fietkau.social ah 😅 then it should support 1b12 depending on configuration! 🙂

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

      It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

      https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

      It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

      Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

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      @Edent Not a feature, but a bug report. The ActivityPub spec doesn't spell it out super clearly, but I'm pretty sure that an Actor's Outbox should be a collection of Activities, not Objects like the single-file server uses.

      So the outbox should have "type" => "Create", and the Object will specify the type it is

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      • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

        @Edent Not a feature, but a bug report. The ActivityPub spec doesn't spell it out super clearly, but I'm pretty sure that an Actor's Outbox should be a collection of Activities, not Objects like the single-file server uses.

        So the outbox should have "type" => "Create", and the Object will specify the type it is

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        @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
        (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          @samedwards Interesting. Could you point out where it says that?
          (Not saying you're wrong; saying I sometimes have difficulty finding the right spec!)

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          @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

          > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

          And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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          • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

            @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

            > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

            And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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            @samedwards got it 🙂

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            • samedwards@mastodon.socialS samedwards@mastodon.social

              @Edent https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

              > The outbox stream contains activities the user has published

              And then an example of a Create activity on a Note https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-create

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              @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

              So does this look right to you?
              http://example.viii.fi/outbox

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                @samedwards Aha! Thanks.

                So does this look right to you?
                http://example.viii.fi/outbox

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                @Edent Yup, that looks like what I'd expect to see, and mirrors Mastodon as well, ie. https://mastodon.social/users/Edent/outbox?page=true

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

                  It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

                  https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

                  It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

                  Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

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                  @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

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                  • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                    @Edent Delete and/or updating posts would be amazing. It would become a great reference implementation for basic ActivityPub interactions.

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                    @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      @threkk I'll have a think about how I could do that. Thanks 🙂

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                      @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        Hey #ActivityPub friends. Are there any new ActivityPub / Mastodon features I should add to #ActivityBot?

                        It's a small bot-only ActivityPub server in a single PHP file.

                        https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

                        It can be followed, post images, allow quote posts, etc.

                        Is there anything else you would like a bot-server to be able to do?

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                        @Edent

                        https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                        It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

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                        • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                          @Edent

                          https://example.viii.fi/posts/69aeb347-03d0-dc44-83c8-9c7c488ff6e0.json

                          It is served by an instance of your bot? The value of inReplyTo in this document is an empty string, which is not a valid URI.

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                          @silverpill good spot!
                          I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                          Or should it be something else?

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            @silverpill good spot!
                            I assume if it isn't a reply, the field should be excluded?

                            Or should it be something else?

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                            @edent@mastodon.social I've learned that it should be excluded altogether, and not a null value

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                              @julian @Edent Yep

                              (although I think we should bring back null)

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                              • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

                                @julian @Edent Yep

                                (although I think we should bring back null)

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                                @silverpill @julian @general
                                Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

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                                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                  @silverpill @julian @general
                                  Ah, I assume that `cc` should also be null if it isn't copied to anyone?

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                                  @edent@mastodon.social <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=42a4d91a3c1" title="🤷" /> I was passing null around like candy but some implementations choke on that. In general, tolerance of odd values in cc is well handled, but I would just omit or send [].

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                                  • threkk@mastodon.socialT threkk@mastodon.social

                                    @Edent No, thank you for making this ❤

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                                    @threkk the bot can now send Delete messages. They're processed successfully by Mastodon.social - so I assume they work elsewhere 🙂

                                    Will have a think about editing.

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