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  4. might try a new thing where i discipline myself into using hashtags as a pseudo-category thing at the beginning of my posts here so as to make better use of the featured hashtags feature...

might try a new thing where i discipline myself into using hashtags as a pseudo-category thing at the beginning of my posts here so as to make better use of the featured hashtags feature...

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    might try a new thing where i discipline myself into using hashtags as a pseudo-category thing at the beginning of my posts here so as to make better use of the featured hashtags feature... if i can keep up doing that

    the thing that bothers me though is that i don't particularly want to opt-in to the other behaviors of the hashtag for my public posts. i just want categories like how Google+ Collections worked, but i don't want to make one account per feed/category

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      might try a new thing where i discipline myself into using hashtags as a pseudo-category thing at the beginning of my posts here so as to make better use of the featured hashtags feature... if i can keep up doing that

      the thing that bothers me though is that i don't particularly want to opt-in to the other behaviors of the hashtag for my public posts. i just want categories like how Google+ Collections worked, but i don't want to make one account per feed/category

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      of course i might also end up just quitting mastodon entirely depending on how my "online presence reorganization" project pans out. maybe a shim layer that basically acts as a boost bot for compatibility with the mastoverse is not a bad idea. i still need to plot out the architectural diagram regarding fedi back-compat

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        of course i might also end up just quitting mastodon entirely depending on how my "online presence reorganization" project pans out. maybe a shim layer that basically acts as a boost bot for compatibility with the mastoverse is not a bad idea. i still need to plot out the architectural diagram regarding fedi back-compat

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        tangential to this i am thinking about the world if Note never existed and we just used Article to refer to published written works regardless of length/formatting/structure

        it's been how many years later and the distinction still feels completely arbitrary and nonsensical and a bad thing to build into your worldview because you can't define it in a way that matters. you need a base model for "content" that you can then further refine, dependent on the consuming profile and use-case

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          tangential to this i am thinking about the world if Note never existed and we just used Article to refer to published written works regardless of length/formatting/structure

          it's been how many years later and the distinction still feels completely arbitrary and nonsensical and a bad thing to build into your worldview because you can't define it in a way that matters. you need a base model for "content" that you can then further refine, dependent on the consuming profile and use-case

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          really the ideal consumer here is a consumer that looks for known properties and uses them in the exact same way every single time with clearly defined semantics and behaviors

          and fedi is... not that

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            really the ideal consumer here is a consumer that looks for known properties and uses them in the exact same way every single time with clearly defined semantics and behaviors

            and fedi is... not that

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            tangent to the tangent... god i wish fedi devs understood and properly utilized multityping and/or profiles. i wish people realized that something can belong to multiple different sets/types/classes. i wish people realized that the same information can be expressed in multiple different ways or represented in different shapes.

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              tangent to the tangent... god i wish fedi devs understood and properly utilized multityping and/or profiles. i wish people realized that something can belong to multiple different sets/types/classes. i wish people realized that the same information can be expressed in multiple different ways or represented in different shapes.

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              there's an argument to be made that this could/should be baked into the Content-Type somehow, because profiles and classes are really just punting the problem of compat and interop further down the road so thus represent an overcomplication

              i mostly agree with this argument, but it is what it is, i guess? the missing bit is a way to declare which Content-Types inherit from which other Content-Types, because you can't easily declare multiple Content-Types. everything expects exactly one type.

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                there's an argument to be made that this could/should be baked into the Content-Type somehow, because profiles and classes are really just punting the problem of compat and interop further down the road so thus represent an overcomplication

                i mostly agree with this argument, but it is what it is, i guess? the missing bit is a way to declare which Content-Types inherit from which other Content-Types, because you can't easily declare multiple Content-Types. everything expects exactly one type.

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                some of the newer jsonld-adjacent spec work has this concept of "media type precision" or specificity https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model-2.0/#media-type-precision

                basically you can have a resource say it is application/vc but how do you then know that it is also conformant with application/ld+json, and with application/json, arguably also with text/plain and application/octet-stream

                you want to avoid a situation where everyone just uses MIME sniffing to guess the type

                you also want to avoid everyone hardcoding hierarchies?

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                  some of the newer jsonld-adjacent spec work has this concept of "media type precision" or specificity https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model-2.0/#media-type-precision

                  basically you can have a resource say it is application/vc but how do you then know that it is also conformant with application/ld+json, and with application/json, arguably also with text/plain and application/octet-stream

                  you want to avoid a situation where everyone just uses MIME sniffing to guess the type

                  you also want to avoid everyone hardcoding hierarchies?

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                  in RDF you have a similar issue with classes and properties, being able to declare that something is a subClassOf or subPropertyOf something else. everyone just "knows" that a Note is also an Object, right? this is defined in the spec and can be stated via an rdf schema. no one goes around multityping ["Note", "Object"] because you can infer Object from Note being a subclass

                  we need something like that, but for MIME/IANA media type, not just rdf:type

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                    in RDF you have a similar issue with classes and properties, being able to declare that something is a subClassOf or subPropertyOf something else. everyone just "knows" that a Note is also an Object, right? this is defined in the spec and can be stated via an rdf schema. no one goes around multityping ["Note", "Object"] because you can infer Object from Note being a subclass

                    we need something like that, but for MIME/IANA media type, not just rdf:type

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                    i mean i guess this is why profiles exist, right

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