Are you doing your part?
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you can pull out all the citations you want but it wont be relevant. Early reddit was rife with cp.
And there's no reason to assume modern reddit now is somehow less atheistic than early reddit.
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This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.
Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone's PR manager.
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability?
I don't get this. old.reddit, whilst functional is dated. People use it because they're used to it - but I wouldn't characterise it as an amazing design.
new.reddit is appalling. Piefed and Lemmy are by no means perfect. No site is. I think people really overstate the necessity of having an amazing aesthetic or user-interface.
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Wait. Why did it get banned though?
In r/RedditAlternatives they explain that the mod, while still an active account (reportedly posting a lot in r/Lebanon), basically has left r/Lemmy unmoderated. (You can find more details about what happened by visiting r/Lemmy using old reddit, it would seem) So it makes sense actually.
The fact is, anyone interested in Lemmy isn't going to be talking about it to Redditors on Reddit in a sub dedicated solely to Lemmy... anymore.
The Threadiverse won that battle, as much as it can, and now development continues forward with PieFed that is even more highly received and recommended by Redditors (Reddit hates tankies far more than we do here). Thus there is no more need for a r/Lemmy.
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We're curious. What's wrong with CS Lewis? If you want to say.
He just legitmizes religion via decorated logical fallacies. The go-to intellectual for religious people.
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Time to open r/notlemmy
Ewww... then you'd have to use Reddit, gross! 🤮
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And there's no reason to assume modern reddit now is somehow less atheistic than early reddit.
I dont care for this point, I never intended to claim that it has less atheists now. I only wanted to describe how reddit started.
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I dont care for this point, I never intended to claim that it has less atheists now. I only wanted to describe how reddit started.
What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there's less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.
Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.
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Lol I get it, so no need to apologize. I just think we did it all wrong. We get angry because something is missing from our approach. Like there's some injustice. I'm not saying people need to be out there every day engaging with toxic assholes or bots. But I do think we all should recognize that not doing that, is helping the spread of these fuckers. One thing I noticed is people of the left had different goals and then people on the right and that burnt them out. The right approached online spaces like they were meeting friends to make fun of and pick on the left. The left was only reacting to things as they happened. They weren't having fun with any of it.
if that’s not good enough for you, you can also rot with the nazis
E: don’t take it personally
The Left and the Right share a lot more in common than either side is willing to admit. The Left eats its own, and tells others what to do exactly in an analogous manner as to the Right. Just looking around at the calls for casual murder, I am reminded of having seen the same from the "other side". I've given up any hope of a rational dialogue with virtually everyone on the internet, but kudos for trying to speak truth rather than give up the good fight. We need more of that imho.
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What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there's less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.
Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.
yeah i never made that point. I was vaguely mentioning the popular topics on the site at the time.
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yeah i never made that point. I was vaguely mentioning the popular topics on the site at the time.
Okay then, you put 'atheists' alongside racists and child pornography which is what would get people's backs up.
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They're super easy to start here
I was born to follow and lurk, not lead.
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Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!
You can also ah... uh... well....
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This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.
Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone's PR manager.
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?
You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there's tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.
Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.
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They could make it optional to each seperate instance in the Fediverse. I could see it being popular on Lemmy for the Dopamine hit. Less so on some of the more focused or political instances.
then, e question:
do we count to profile carma points received from no-carma instances?
If so, people from profile-carma instances would still be prone to cheap attention farming.
How it is now is perfect personaly for me: there are still discussions, less popular, more disagreeaple comments are still at the bottom, and you still can see, how controversial your opinion is. And, as i already said, this system still removes whole cast of cheap carma farmers, making interactions more meaningful on average.
Lemmy is still prettx underground, but let's be honest, it'd probably stay undergound. This site is a bunch of nerds dreaming of a future without corpo dictature on what should and what should not be. It's good to dream big, but dreaming about becoming another reddit is kinda stupid if you ask me.
You wanna make lemmy more popular? Talk about it over other social media in a good light (not just fucking tankie reddit), repost screenshots and memes from over there, etc. Profile-visible carma is just not it.
but then, lemmy is foss, you can do it yourself, if you really believe in your idea.
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Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.
What are you on about? There's tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don't spread child porn.
Reddit removed /r/atheists from :r/all years ago so it's not as visible now.
Arguably a big part of the enshittification imo.
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You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there's tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.
Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.
Thanks, that was a helpful reply. I am not exactly a tankie, but I am actively trying to avoid the more right wing pockets of the internet that are actively avoiding reddit. The venn diagram is small, I think.
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Atheists are way less likely to create child porn than a catholic priest.
Don't make me pull out citations and evidence based data in this thread. I'll do it.
He's referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.
I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn't illegal.
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What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there's less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.
Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.
They never made this point.
Your inability to read is showing.
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We're growing slowly but at least we are growing.
Agreed.
I don't think anyone that believes different was on early Reddit.
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They never made this point.
Your inability to read is showing.
They lumped in atheists with racists and child porn. It was easily misread as at least implying atheists are equivalent morally or as bad.
