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  • F frustrated@lemmy.world

    This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.

    Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone's PR manager.

    The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?

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    openstars@piefed.social
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    You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there's tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.

    Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.

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    • A aljernon@lemmy.today

      They could make it optional to each seperate instance in the Fediverse. I could see it being popular on Lemmy for the Dopamine hit. Less so on some of the more focused or political instances.

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      cheesyfox@lemmy.sdf.org
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      then, e question:

      do we count to profile carma points received from no-carma instances?

      If so, people from profile-carma instances would still be prone to cheap attention farming.

      How it is now is perfect personaly for me: there are still discussions, less popular, more disagreeaple comments are still at the bottom, and you still can see, how controversial your opinion is. And, as i already said, this system still removes whole cast of cheap carma farmers, making interactions more meaningful on average.

      Lemmy is still prettx underground, but let's be honest, it'd probably stay undergound. This site is a bunch of nerds dreaming of a future without corpo dictature on what should and what should not be. It's good to dream big, but dreaming about becoming another reddit is kinda stupid if you ask me.

      You wanna make lemmy more popular? Talk about it over other social media in a good light (not just fucking tankie reddit), repost screenshots and memes from over there, etc. Profile-visible carma is just not it.

      but then, lemmy is foss, you can do it yourself, if you really believe in your idea.

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      • S skavau@piefed.social

        Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.

        What are you on about? There's tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don't spread child porn.

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        krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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        Reddit removed /r/atheists from :r/all years ago so it's not as visible now.

        Arguably a big part of the enshittification imo.

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        • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

          You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there's tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.

          Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.

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          frustrated@lemmy.world
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          Thanks, that was a helpful reply. I am not exactly a tankie, but I am actively trying to avoid the more right wing pockets of the internet that are actively avoiding reddit. The venn diagram is small, I think.

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          • N nomorereddit@lemmy.today

            Atheists are way less likely to create child porn than a catholic priest.

            Don't make me pull out citations and evidence based data in this thread. I'll do it.

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            krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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            #102

            He's referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.

            I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn't illegal.

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            • S skavau@piefed.social

              What I am getting at is that your insinuation that atheists spread child porn specifically is pretty baseless. If atheists are just as numerous on Reddit as a proportion of the userbase now as they were in the early days of reddit, and there's less child porn on there now - then they were obviously not the cause.

              Moreover, I would guess that a majority of the Fediverse are atheists.

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              krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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              They never made this point.

              Your inability to read is showing.

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              • pseudo@jlai.luP pseudo@jlai.lu

                We're growing slowly but at least we are growing.

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                krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                Agreed.

                I don't think anyone that believes different was on early Reddit.

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                • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                  They never made this point.

                  Your inability to read is showing.

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                  skavau@piefed.social
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                  #105

                  They lumped in atheists with racists and child porn. It was easily misread as at least implying atheists are equivalent morally or as bad.

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                  • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                    Reddit removed /r/atheists from :r/all years ago so it's not as visible now.

                    Arguably a big part of the enshittification imo.

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                    skavau@piefed.social
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                    #106

                    Yeah, it used to be more visible. I know.

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                    • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                      He's referencing /r/jailbait which was super popular on Reddit till they banned it.

                      I found the existence of the sub fuckjng appalling but it was also arguably a big part of the enshittifstion of Reddit. Like. I hate that it existed but it wasn't illegal.

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                      skavau@piefed.social
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                      #107

                      It wasn't. But it was pretty bad PR for the site.

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                      • A aljernon@lemmy.today

                        Be the change you wanna see. They set this up to be as user driven as possible. You can start communities, discussions, all of it. I started a Zombie community to have somewhere to discuss my take on season one of Fear the Walking Dead. Not much engagement yet but ya gotta start somewhere. It'll never take off if everyone who isn't permabanned keeps slipping off to reddit.

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                        lemmyknowsbest@lemmy.world
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                        One thing I find satisfying is noticing how much more intelligent people are here than on reddit. It speaks volumes regarding the types of people who get permabanned from [insert any scathing adjectives of your choice] Reddit.

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                        • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM mrmanager@lemmy.today

                          Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.

                          But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!

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                          mithranarkanere@lemmy.world
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                          There are serious discusions, you just have to find them. Mostly news and technology articles, but there could be more.

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                          • A aljernon@lemmy.today

                            Be the change you wanna see. They set this up to be as user driven as possible. You can start communities, discussions, all of it. I started a Zombie community to have somewhere to discuss my take on season one of Fear the Walking Dead. Not much engagement yet but ya gotta start somewhere. It'll never take off if everyone who isn't permabanned keeps slipping off to reddit.

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                            sv443@sh.itjust.works
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                            #110

                            You can't be the change when the change is "we need more people"

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                            • S skavau@piefed.social

                              They lumped in atheists with racists and child porn. It was easily misread as at least implying atheists are equivalent morally or as bad.

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                              krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                              #111

                              This is why people are saying you're implying.

                              Dictionary
                              Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
                              INFORMAL
                              noun
                              1.
                              pornography.
                              "hardcore porn"
                              2.
                              television programs, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a nonsexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience.
                              "a thrilling throwback to the golden age of disaster movies—weather porn of the highest order"
                              adjective
                              pornographic.
                              "a porn video"

                              And I stand corrected on my earlier

                              According to google /r/jailbait was, by definitin, porn

                              I do think most people thin of porn d overt sexual content though.

                              It was definitely easily misread though, I agree with that. Even though you didn't have to go to /r/all.

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                              • S skavau@piefed.social

                                It wasn't. But it was pretty bad PR for the site.

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                                krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                                This is why people as misreading you.

                                "It wan't" is not super clear. If you said "it wasn't popular" people would understand you better.

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                                • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

                                  This is why people as misreading you.

                                  "It wan't" is not super clear. If you said "it wasn't popular" people would understand you better.

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                                  skavau@piefed.social
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                                  I'm confused by what you're even getting at here.

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                                  • S skavau@piefed.social

                                    I'm confused by what you're even getting at here.

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                                    krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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                                    #114

                                    Pretty sure I replied to the wrong comment ahhaha

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                                    • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                      Like I get the meme, but maybe rethink it? It’s also giving

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                                      87six@lemmy.zip
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                                      #115

                                      Yes, we are the baddies, from Reddit 's pov anyway. We will burn down their corporate greed and glass towers! And we shall so it from points that nice desk chair!

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                                      • M mithranarkanere@lemmy.world

                                        There are serious discusions, you just have to find them. Mostly news and technology articles, but there could be more.

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                                        chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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                                        The thing is it's super hard to start a niche community due to a fundamental issue with federation. Which instance do you start the community in, and how do people find it?

                                        With reddit you just needed /r/[obscurehobby]. In lemmy you need to check all the instances, and you may find a different versions of the community, but all of them are dead with like 2 posts from 8 months ago because they never got the critical mass needed to catch on because the community was split.

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                                        • F frustrated@lemmy.world

                                          Thanks, that was a helpful reply. I am not exactly a tankie, but I am actively trying to avoid the more right wing pockets of the internet that are actively avoiding reddit. The venn diagram is small, I think.

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                                          openstars@piefed.social
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                                          One problem with tankies though is that they basically are right-wingers, just on the left, i.e. they are in form if not content.

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                                          And then both sides of that extremist divide drives away the 80% or so in the middle somewhere, leaving the platform empty due to the "Nazi bar effect" (you may choose to ignore the actual Nazis as you sit in your own little corner in a bar, but how can you invite your friends, especially Jewish ones, to come to such?)

                                          Purity testing will continue until morale improves (i.e. short sighted thinking does not realize that certain modes of treating especially newcomers to a place will effectively kill it off, eventually leaving solely the "pure" remaining - except nobody is truly pure so realistically it will leave almost nobody).

                                          There are many true leftist places here on the Threadiverse btw including slrpnk.net and dbzero. And there, I just did purity testing myself:-), although due to the Intolerance Paradox this must be done in order for any type of community to be made.

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