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  3. So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

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  • metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    metaning@mastodon.social
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    #22

    @manualdousuario @haverholm @davidgerard Anyone have a link to a good noob guide to options for posting from a WP install to a mastodon account... like a way to make a dedicated category that perhaps doesn't get included in the home page or rss feed (can do that with functions.php already)?

    Or, does anyone have a self-hostable masto version, that can work within the scale of resource use of WP, perhaps with no global feed, just for a single user to read and post?

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    • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

      So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

      I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

      #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
      cc @davidgerard

      independentpen@mas.toI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @haverholm @davidgerard nobody asked for Gutenberg and nobody asked for this

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      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

        So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

        I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

        #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
        cc @davidgerard

        dalereardon@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @haverholm @davidgerard ClassicPress, the fork of WP, doesn't have all these AI features

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        • metaning@mastodon.socialM metaning@mastodon.social

          @manualdousuario @haverholm @davidgerard Anyone have a link to a good noob guide to options for posting from a WP install to a mastodon account... like a way to make a dedicated category that perhaps doesn't get included in the home page or rss feed (can do that with functions.php already)?

          Or, does anyone have a self-hostable masto version, that can work within the scale of resource use of WP, perhaps with no global feed, just for a single user to read and post?

          haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @metaning Read the room, please. @manualdousuario @davidgerard

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          • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

            @metaning Read the room, please. @manualdousuario @davidgerard

            metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            metaning@mastodon.social
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            #26

            @haverholm @manualdousuario @davidgerard Yes, it contains people who don't like the new WP direction (and are talking about alternate fediverse WP posting bridges). I'm still on 4.x and probably going to migrate to ClassicPress, because Gutenberg is a flaming bag of excrement. Hence why asking.

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            • dalereardon@mastodon.socialD dalereardon@mastodon.social

              @haverholm @davidgerard ClassicPress, the fork of WP, doesn't have all these AI features

              haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @dalereardon And I mentioned Classicpress above, asking if it's compatible with the WP-ActivityPub add-on. @davidgerard

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              • metaning@mastodon.socialM metaning@mastodon.social

                @haverholm @manualdousuario @davidgerard Yes, it contains people who don't like the new WP direction (and are talking about alternate fediverse WP posting bridges). I'm still on 4.x and probably going to migrate to ClassicPress, because Gutenberg is a flaming bag of excrement. Hence why asking.

                haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                @metaning @manualdousuario @davidgerard And I reply, again, this is not the right thread to ask.

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                • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                  So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

                  I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

                  #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
                  cc @davidgerard

                  nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nspsegal@mastodon.social
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                  #29

                  @haverholm I'm glad you asked because I was wondering the same thing. Yesterday I posted about how infuriating it was to spend hours doing normal tasks and after I finally got a blog post up, Wordpress sent me a questionnaire asking how they could improve it. I told them to get rid of AI and read Ed Zitron and Cory Doctorow. Or I suggested they offer the old non-AI version as a option. Here's something I wrote about AI:
                  proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11the-microsoft-doom-loop/

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                  • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                    @haverholm I'm glad you asked because I was wondering the same thing. Yesterday I posted about how infuriating it was to spend hours doing normal tasks and after I finally got a blog post up, Wordpress sent me a questionnaire asking how they could improve it. I told them to get rid of AI and read Ed Zitron and Cory Doctorow. Or I suggested they offer the old non-AI version as a option. Here's something I wrote about AI:
                    proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11the-microsoft-doom-loop/

                    haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #30

                    @nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: https://proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11/the-microsoft-doom-loop/ Giving it a read now.

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                    • haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #31

                      @julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

                      Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

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                      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                        @nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: https://proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11/the-microsoft-doom-loop/ Giving it a read now.

                        haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @nspsegal Not a bad piece. I try to avoid Microsoft as much as possible, but they deliver infrastructure for my day job. It has been so depressing to follow how they just forced Copilot on *their paying customers*.

                        Suddenly the entire educational institution has implemented guidelines and advice on how students and staff can use "AI" in their work. Not guidelines *against* it, because it has been normalised through the software the workplace provides.

                        See also https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/ai-is-destroying-the-university-and-learning-itself

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                        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                          @nspsegal Not a bad piece. I try to avoid Microsoft as much as possible, but they deliver infrastructure for my day job. It has been so depressing to follow how they just forced Copilot on *their paying customers*.

                          Suddenly the entire educational institution has implemented guidelines and advice on how students and staff can use "AI" in their work. Not guidelines *against* it, because it has been normalised through the software the workplace provides.

                          See also https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/ai-is-destroying-the-university-and-learning-itself

                          haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #33

                          @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                          Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

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                            #34

                            @morph @julian My first reaction is that Hubzilla is more slanted toward the federation part than the blog and site building focus of WP, but actually — that's not a drawback. Yeah, I'll have to give it a try.

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                            • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                              @morph @julian My first reaction is that Hubzilla is more slanted toward the federation part than the blog and site building focus of WP, but actually — that's not a drawback. Yeah, I'll have to give it a try.

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                              morph@morphnet.de
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                              @haverholm @julian
                              It's indeed usable as CMS. There's of course not that supply of themes and fancy stuff like for WP.

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                              • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

                                @haverholm @julian
                                It's indeed usable as CMS. There's of course not that supply of themes and fancy stuff like for WP.

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                                #36

                                @morph TBF most of the WP themes are bloated frameworks anyway. @julian

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                                • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                  @morph TBF most of the WP themes are bloated frameworks anyway. @julian

                                  morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @haverholm @julian
                                  I saw some amazing sites people have built on their Hubs.

                                  BTW ... what is the magic that this thread is located in the activitypub.space #nodebb forum? Didn't the conversation start with a common Mastodon post?

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                                  • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

                                    @haverholm @julian
                                    I saw some amazing sites people have built on their Hubs.

                                    BTW ... what is the magic that this thread is located in the activitypub.space #nodebb forum? Didn't the conversation start with a common Mastodon post?

                                    haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #38

                                    @morph Re: magic sauce — I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

                                    Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

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                                    • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                      @morph Re: magic sauce — I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

                                      Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

                                      morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      morph@morphnet.de
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                                      @haverholm @julian
                                      Indeed it is. Viva La Föderation! 🖖🏻

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                                      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                        @morph Re: magic sauce — I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

                                        Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

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                                        @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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                                        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                          @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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                                          #41

                                          @morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too" 🤣

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