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  • M magic_lobster_party@fedia.io

    I have not. Last time I used Eclipse (maybe 10 years ago) I got so frustrated it prompted me to learn Vim.

    I’m currently mostly using IntelliJ these days.

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    alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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    The only issue I've ever had with Eclipse is updating it. It's only gotten better in the past 2 years or so. The rest of the time upgrading was a complete pain in the ass. Just about every time I ended up giving up and reinstalling from scratch.

    Well, the one other thing that annoys me is not having decent themeing. I use a third party extension and while it does help, there are parts of the IDE that you still can't customize so if you want a dark mode you have to deal with parta that aren't ideal.

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      umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      programmer vegeta is having a bad time

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        levzzz@lemmy.world
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        Intellij is sometimes like that, e.g. I hate not being able to change my gradle cache folder globally, instead of per project

        Sometimes it stops showing the ui and just runs in the background

        Sometimes it fails to git pull and the rollback menu is broken

        Sometimes the hot reload bugs out and it recompiles 1000+ classes

        But i still love it

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        • skip0110@lemm.eeS skip0110@lemm.ee

          Visual Studio has these issues daily.

          Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.

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          domeguy@lemmy.world
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          Your experience is far from universal. Working with actual code files, visual studio works very good.

          Mix in XAML blazor, however...

          (Note that both file formats are abstractions from which C# classes are.generated...)

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            droechai@lemm.ee
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            I have a faint memory of working with Eclipse but shelved it due to making Java even slower than my dog walking towards his shower. Is it still alive and viable?

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              Are you even a real programmer if you haven't fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won't open for whatever reason?

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              • L lukstru@lemmy.world

                vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3

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                mnbychoice@midwest.social
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                One doesn't know how to code if they cannot spell the whole word.

                (Turn off autocomplete for a day and test your actual knowledge.)

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                  captain_stupid@lemmy.world
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                  Crys in Vivado

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                    Are you even a real programmer if you haven't fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won't open for whatever reason?

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                    6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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                    I once fixed an important bug by force-pushing on the master branch (I was an admin too and could do it). I had 5 minutes to fix it, and no one was aware of it. I didn't ask for permission but I was sweating a lot.

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                    • F froh42@lemmy.world

                      Found the IntelliJ (or friends) user.

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                      6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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                      Actually Clion is prone to eating all your RAM randomly. It's Java after all.

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                      • A atro_city@fedia.io

                        Are IDEs the microsoft word of programming?

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                        lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works
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                        Yes and no.

                        You can avoid all these problems by just coding in Word ofc, but then again all these problems will still happen

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                          vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3

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                          openstars@piefed.social
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                          "clicks"? Where we're going we don't need... "clicks"!

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                            lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            Just use Vim!

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                              Are you even a real programmer if you haven't fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won't open for whatever reason?

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                              gnutrino@programming.dev
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                              I've done critical fixes (usually config) direct on a prod server with vim over ssh before now. Not the best way to do it but sometimes waiting for CI will just take too long...

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                                I've done critical fixes (usually config) direct on a prod server with vim over ssh before now. Not the best way to do it but sometimes waiting for CI will just take too long...

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                                scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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                                Old school "CI/CD" was an FTP server where you dropped DLLs into I remember

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                                  Just use Vim!

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                                  yoshman@lemmy.world
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                                  I do all my edits using sed inserts, like a real dev.

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                                    _____@lemm.ee
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                                    Can someone tell me if I'm just stupid and doing something wrong ?

                                    Neovim with Python lsp works 90000% better than any Python extension on vscode for me. I don't hate vscode and I occasionally use it but it kind of sucks for python ? Does anyone have any kind of info that could help, what extensions are you using ?

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                                      Can someone tell me if I'm just stupid and doing something wrong ?

                                      Neovim with Python lsp works 90000% better than any Python extension on vscode for me. I don't hate vscode and I occasionally use it but it kind of sucks for python ? Does anyone have any kind of info that could help, what extensions are you using ?

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                                      lime@feddit.nu
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                                      vscode isn't an ide either. one of the big problems i've seen with its python lsp server is that it doesn't work if the project structure is "wrong", which means that usability is limited.

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                                        I do all my edits using sed inserts, like a real dev.

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                                        prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Just use ed like the gods intended

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                                          letsgo@lemm.ee
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                                          Oh I don't know. 1,3,5 and 6 resonate strongly with me for Visual Studio 2022. The only reason 4 doesn't is because instead of looking for a setting I DDG "how do I do X in VS2022"

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