You look a bit skinny, son.
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You have a point but maybe the gatekeeping is a good thing?
Average user doesnβt care about federation would translate to the average user doesnβt care about this community. Maybe?
Itβs like how some old forums would charge for an account. Kept a certain low effort person from signing up. Sure it might turn people off but if you do enough work to understand how to get in then thereβs a level of buying into it that might make you care more.
Just some thoughts.
I would love to have more diversity here, so I'm afraid I don't agree with that.
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This is actually pretty good user retention. Most platforms bleed way more users after a surge in sign ups (eg Mastodon, Pixelfed, Threads, Bluesky).
they most likely went back to the original platforms they came on, reddit, X,tiktok.
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This doesn't seem to be hoping for unlimited growth but rather that is has stagnated and is even falling. That can kill a community especially when it is as small as it is
probably went back the mainstream ones like reddit, and the others, assuming you wernt banned in any of those platforms permananetly.
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I agree except it feels like people are way more active here than on reddit, me personally I never commented but I comment all the time on here. Lemmy feels really active even without a ton of users (especially discussion threads)
its probably due to self-censorship because subs, and reddit is ready to ban you at the moments notice for saying something they think its violating the rules(misconstruing) and not do actually violating by being vitrolitic, or bigotic. you have to be careful what you say on reddit.
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Anecdotally, it doesn't feel like the experience is contracting, or part of a shrinking community. It's worth asking what the data means, and whether it's bad, but there are definitely other reasonable factors too. Users from interoperable platforms like mastodon and piefed, individual people using fewer accounts, or even fewer lurkers, could be responsible for a good chunk of the data.
it kinda shrank after lemmy.ee went down, because they moved scattered to piefed,,,etc. and also blocking people too.
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People attack me constantly on Lemmy if I suggest to look at the positive a little more.
depends on what and how you say it. people on reddit says, or suggest positive things but its more like insulting intelligence than offering advice.
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I blocked all the news channels, location channels (since they're 90% news anyways), and a few extra that kept getting bad news related comments or trollish crap, and the top feeds are usually pretty good. They don't change too much over a day, but at least it no longer feels like doomscrolling.
i dont block news channels, just the POLITICS on worlds. it was problematic enough in my lemmy.ee account they misinterpeted my comments as being anti-semitic/not being pro-israel, when i was calling out seinfeld and his wife as as a israeli shill that was agitating protests in the campuses. plus i detect alot of tankies, tankies adjacent on that communities too. news i dont have problem with discuss similar issues. of course any stray users that are tankies i will block too, and then people that try to disguise thier comments as helpful but is actually be super condescending.
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Quality over quantity.
Haven't had to deal with a single power hungry mod since I've been here.
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Should aggregate number of Lemmy and Piefed users (and maybe Mbin, NodeBB too), and see if the graph looks very different then
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Haven't had to deal with a single power hungry mod since I've been here.
Have you blocked .ml?
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Yeah. And we don't need to attract the MOST people, just the BEST people
I might be in the minority but I'm entirely comfortable with moderate explosive growth, it hasn't hurt bluesky one bit. Especially since explosive growth here implies reddit is dying.
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feels like there was a missed opportunity there
Could be fedd.it was already taken
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I might be in the minority but I'm entirely comfortable with moderate explosive growth, it hasn't hurt bluesky one bit. Especially since explosive growth here implies reddit is dying.
Personally I'd prefer to avoid reddit-ification, it had become very bad in the last few years
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Probably because >50% of the posts on here are about depressing American politics
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Unlimited growth is capitalist mindset. Stability and community are what we value here.
Well, this is really going to tank our quarterly report. What do you think the shareholders are going to say?!
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Probably because >50% of the posts on here are about depressing American politics
only because you keep joining them, i blocked out the main politics instances/communities, and there was significantly less of those annoying ragebait posts that you cant seem to think if its a tankie posts, or astroturfed pro-israeli post. even on reddit i avoided most of them, because i been burned one too many times by those subs for pointing out ragebaiting, or bigotry.
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Haven't had to deal with a single power hungry mod since I've been here.
they are all on reddit, where all the addiction is, and plus alot of the supermods seemed to be associated with the admins or is an admin themselves.
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Based on what I've seen, much of this could be from instances with redundant accounts shutting down.
In other words, a lot of folks can't sustain the burden of hosting an instance long term. That's fine, and expected.
ee lacked admins, and some funding? that was the only problem. or some of the others they got burned out trying to do it themselves.
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Let's talk about the Overton window.
At some point in time, the major social platforms will fuck up - probably by way of AI - and end up in a collective scandal that gives people a bad taste in their mouthes.
At that point y'all better have your talking points, framing, concepts and schpiel at the ready, because it'll be another chance to adopt even more users. So let me stress a couple of things:
You win more bees with honey, you should be more concerned about peoples wellbeing than your own opinion and start collecting valuable, objective and giving accounts - be they international, but most preferably local - across the fediverse to share with new users.
AGAIN!! You being a toxic little shit will repell people. If you REALLY CARE about GETTING PEOPLE OFF OF PREDATORY CORPORATE PLATFORMS plz be mindful, kind, shower, groom, keep your inside humor to your inside group, learn some rhetoric to improve your communication skills and remember:
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honeyBeing on your A-game does not mean Asshole-game. Plz do not stink up the place.
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Personally I'd prefer to avoid reddit-ification, it had become very bad in the last few years
i do agree with the sentiment, but i think we're largely okay on that front:
among the big problems with reddit for the past, say, 10-ish years, was the consolidation of subreddit moderation in relatively few, extremely influential mods. some of which where widely known to be assholes of one kind or another...
the very design of lemmy provides a kind of natural resistance to this phenomenon by spreading communities over many distinct servers, with distinct admins and moderation teams.
it's by no means perfect, but the simple fact that communities can choose to leave servers that have become unsuitable to hosting them (like we've already seen with some of the star trek comms leaving .world...i think that's the server they left?), it becomes more difficult for power tripping admins or mods to utterly ruin communities. it still causes major disruptions, of course, but i think it's a decent trade-off!
having already seen that part of the design in action; I'm really not that worried about lemmy turning into reddit.
what's much more concerning is eventually being overrun by sophisticated, hostile discourse manipulators like bot and troll farms. (if we ever get big enough to attract those...)
while decentralization provides resilience against enemies within, I'm not so sure it does the same for enemies without:
coordinating bot defense and using proper authentication for end-users to ensure that the people talking are actually, you know, people, is probably going to be extremely challenging... eventually, at least...
