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By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis.

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  • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
    To put this into perspective, I cannot visit some static websites that have Anubis deployed, but I can:

    - Chat over XMPP using
    Conversations or use delta.chat for Chatmail
    - Hang out on Fedi using
    Tusky
    - Listen to music using any player, or by visiting my local Copyparty instance
    (which works all the way back to Netscape 4.0)
    - Navigate places using
    Comaps

    But visiting websites with Anubis? Nope. Not happening.

    Even if it could run, it would probably take me a minute to visit your website.
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    I think the biggest statement that I want to make here is this:

    Software should be efficient, and fast. We've all forgotten what it means to be on a platform that is restricted ever since our computing resources started going up, and this is where it left us.

    Those less fortunate are unable to view even the simplest pages because there is software in front that simply won't run on my device.

    Our software isn't quick or snappy anymore, to the point where any software which IS quick or snappy markets itself as being so. It has become a marketing feature.

    Sure, all our new fancy tech is quite nice, but let's not forget that
    not everyone is as fortunate.

    I am very glad that there's tools which work even on the cheapest or oldest devices.
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    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
      @sneexy it's a speadtrum unisoc device but all threads I've found of trying to use various tools (ALL of which are windows-only anyways) ended up permabricking the device

      so, unless there is a temp-root, dm-verity and AVB bypass, I won't be unlocking this thing anytime soon

      I debloated it to hell and back, yet despite having significantly better specs it
      lags more than the Moto C plus lol
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      @alexia @sneexy there's a sketchy ass piece of software called DC Unlocker, that while it doesn't have the Blade listed, I do wonder if it would somehow support it? Maybe worth contacting their support. It primarily supports unlocking Huawei phones, and hasn't had updates since 2023...

      Alternatively there are numerous weird sketchy sites online that seem to offer "unlocks", which I assume means SIM unlocking and not bootloader unlocking...

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      • jessienab@wetdry.worldJ jessienab@wetdry.world

        @alexia @sneexy there's a sketchy ass piece of software called DC Unlocker, that while it doesn't have the Blade listed, I do wonder if it would somehow support it? Maybe worth contacting their support. It primarily supports unlocking Huawei phones, and hasn't had updates since 2023...

        Alternatively there are numerous weird sketchy sites online that seem to offer "unlocks", which I assume means SIM unlocking and not bootloader unlocking...

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        @jessienab @sneexy

        I already know that there is tools that can unlock this device, I've seen people use those, however they all permabricked their devices in doing so and 99,99% of these tools cost money and have DRM that only works on Windows.
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        • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
          @sneexy it's a speadtrum unisoc device but all threads I've found of trying to use various tools (ALL of which are windows-only anyways) ended up permabricking the device

          so, unless there is a temp-root, dm-verity and AVB bypass, I won't be unlocking this thing anytime soon

          I debloated it to hell and back, yet despite having significantly better specs it
          lags more than the Moto C plus lol
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          @alexia https://firmwarespro.com/bootloader/zte-blade-a34-detail also guessing you may have tried this, the official process?

          Maybe it's just not worth playing with...

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          • jessienab@wetdry.worldJ jessienab@wetdry.world

            @alexia https://firmwarespro.com/bootloader/zte-blade-a34-detail also guessing you may have tried this, the official process?

            Maybe it's just not worth playing with...

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            @jessienab That's not the official process at all, ZTE doesn't have one! 😄

            They literally use screenshots for unlocking a Xiaomi device — A completely different manufacturer
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            • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
              This is all I get.
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              @alexia I also just get only this.

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              • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                In other words, I encourage you to look to other solutions.

                Some that I know of in no particular order:
                -
                go-away – alternative with No-JS challenges and more customizability
                -
                Iocaine – actively poison AI scrapers, best paired with nam shub of enki configuration

                I heard mumbles that Anubis is also getting No-Javascript methods eventually, but I don't know more than that.

                Anubis has No-Javascript challenges, there's some more advanced ones in the paid offering

                (feel free to add to that list, I had something bookmarked but I've lost it on my old phone)
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                @alexia thanks for the list, will check it out!
                (I use Anubis for my Forgejo instance but am desperate for alternatives)

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                • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                  By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                  This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                  @alexia I don't have a problem with them doing paid features, time costs money. I also doubt that many people will move to a different option just for older devices to get through.

                  I'm also curious as to why you're tied to such an old device. That's an unfortunate situation.

                  EDIT: Just saw that you're getting a Pixel 7 soon, enjoy!

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                  • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                    By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                    This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                    @alexia okay so like this is not a solution to anubis but
                    if you change your UA to something unlike a browser it should just ignore you if it's using defaults
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                    • izzy@social.shadowkat.netI izzy@social.shadowkat.net
                      @alexia okay so like this is not a solution to anubis but
                      if you change your UA to something unlike a browser it should just ignore you if it's using defaults
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                      #30
                      @izzy yeah I know I can just set my user-agent to like, curl, but that's a hack and doesn't solve it for all those other people which is the main thin I'm trying to critique
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                      • carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systemsC carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems

                        @alexia I don't have a problem with them doing paid features, time costs money. I also doubt that many people will move to a different option just for older devices to get through.

                        I'm also curious as to why you're tied to such an old device. That's an unfortunate situation.

                        EDIT: Just saw that you're getting a Pixel 7 soon, enjoy!

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                        @carbonatedcaffeine

                        I mean yeah sure I'm getting a pixel soon but only thanks to fundraising

                        god knows how many people are out there which aren't as fortunate as me and cannot just get a newer device

                        what do like the majority of people in idk Cuba or something do, they don't even got most newer devices over there
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                        • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                          I think the biggest statement that I want to make here is this:

                          Software should be efficient, and fast. We've all forgotten what it means to be on a platform that is restricted ever since our computing resources started going up, and this is where it left us.

                          Those less fortunate are unable to view even the simplest pages because there is software in front that simply won't run on my device.

                          Our software isn't quick or snappy anymore, to the point where any software which IS quick or snappy markets itself as being so. It has become a marketing feature.

                          Sure, all our new fancy tech is quite nice, but let's not forget that
                          not everyone is as fortunate.

                          I am very glad that there's tools which work even on the cheapest or oldest devices.
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                          @alexia

                          This I can get behind. Sure, energy conservation and all that is goddamn important, but people actually being able to use their devices comes first for me.

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                          • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                            @carbonatedcaffeine

                            I mean yeah sure I'm getting a pixel soon but only thanks to fundraising

                            god knows how many people are out there which aren't as fortunate as me and cannot just get a newer device

                            what do like the majority of people in idk Cuba or something do, they don't even got most newer devices over there
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                            @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems
                            i mean i imagine the infrastructure isn't built around having a modernish phone
                            like
                            until 2019 2020ish my grandma lived pretty fine on her own with just a feature phone

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                            • piku@blahaj.zoneP piku@blahaj.zone

                              @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems
                              i mean i imagine the infrastructure isn't built around having a modernish phone
                              like
                              until 2019 2020ish my grandma lived pretty fine on her own with just a feature phone

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                              @piku @carbonatedcaffeine

                              in Germany it increasingly is, and that's despite more people becoming poorer 😕
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                              • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                mind you, technically I CAN install firefox, however on hardware that has:

                                - 900 **mega**bytes of RAM
                                - 4 CPU cores clocked at ~1.3 gigahertz
                                - Android 7
                                - 32Bit SoC

                                it's........less than serviceable in comparison to Chromium 66. Yes, chromium 66. That's what comes shipped and I've yet to find ARM 32bit builds newer than this which install on this architecture and device.
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                                @alexia aren't you risking like a million CVEs sticking with old chromium? i have similarly old hardware and i usually just grumble, install firefox ESR, and pay the price

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                                • imyxh@weirder.earthI imyxh@weirder.earth

                                  @alexia aren't you risking like a million CVEs sticking with old chromium? i have similarly old hardware and i usually just grumble, install firefox ESR, and pay the price

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                                  @imyxh this device is vulnerable to a flaw in the SoC allowing for privilege escalation and has no concept of Verified Boot or dm-verity

                                  i have other problems ;w;
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                                  • piku@blahaj.zoneP piku@blahaj.zone

                                    @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems
                                    i mean i imagine the infrastructure isn't built around having a modernish phone
                                    like
                                    until 2019 2020ish my grandma lived pretty fine on her own with just a feature phone

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                                    @piku @alexia fair point!

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                                    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                      @niko fixed
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                                      @alexia @niko And in the open source version: https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/challenges/metarefresh

                                      The paid one is something I'm actively finishing and involves every single way I can trick a browser into loading things from pages with and without JavaScript.

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                                      • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                        @carbonatedcaffeine

                                        I mean yeah sure I'm getting a pixel soon but only thanks to fundraising

                                        god knows how many people are out there which aren't as fortunate as me and cannot just get a newer device

                                        what do like the majority of people in idk Cuba or something do, they don't even got most newer devices over there
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                                        #39

                                        @alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.

                                        How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)

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                                        • carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systemsC carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.

                                          How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)

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                                          @carbonatedcaffeine

                                          honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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