This is a public service announcement to never ever use Oracle
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This is a public service announcement to never ever use Oracle
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
@ErikUden sure, but that's in the terms of almost all online products.
If you don't agree to them, you can probably not post online.
And by the way, where *are* e.g. mastodon.social's TOS? Not the moderation rules, the actual TOS?
Because mastodon.social/terms gives me a 404...
Hmmm where are those for mastodon.de Mr. Vertretungsberechtigter?
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replied to bmaxv@noc.social last edited by
@bmaxv @ErikUden there's this for mastodon.social: https://mastodon.social/privacy-policy
And for mastodon.de: https://mastodon.de/privacy-policy
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
After realizing that my servers were offline since the 25th of January 2025, I've been in contact with Oracle support in a multitude of ways trying to figure out why this happened and how we can recover both the account and data.
I wasn't told that my account was disabled. I didn't receive an E-Mail or anything. When logging in, I was simply told that my username or password was incorrect. After (successfully) resetting my password twice, I realized it wasn't about the password. Oracle had just deleted my account without any notice.
Both through calls and text, always with the same service request (SR) number, I contacted support. Initially, support told me that my account was flagged โInactiveโ and hence disabled. They also verified that they saw me login almost daily and that I never missed a payment or anything. Even if an account was inactive, that's never a reason to disable it, especially without any warning E-Mail or an E-Mail letting me know that my account was disabled in the first place.
This chat was the result of all of that, where the highest team I've yet been elevated to told me that there's nothing they can do about it, there's no reason they can tell me for why this happened, and there's no one else I could ask.
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
I also love how I ask โIs there anything I can do to avoid this happening in the future?โ and they respond with โOh, don't worry. You don't have a future at Oracle. This will not happen to you again, as we don't allow for you to make another account.โ
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
The tech person at Oracle at least lets me know that they'd feel similarly betrayed and dislike this handling of user data too ๐ฅฒ
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
Don't worry: I have backups of all of this. It's just kafkaesque what is happening here.
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
Interestingly, two days before Oracle deleted my account and all servers associated with it, I publicly criticized Oracle's CEO in a viral post for promising dystopian AI surveillance technology to his investors.
Erik Uden ๐ (@ErikUden@mastodon.de)
Day three of Trump's term and the largest push for surveillance capitalism yet has been made: **Project Stargate** will be a $500.000.000.000 (*500 billion USD*) data center used for running a multitude of AIs with the purpose of spying on you. Larry Ellison, the world's second richest man and CEO of Oracle, one of the main partners of Stargate, said: > โCitizens will be on their best behavior, because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on [...]. We're using A.I. to monitor the video.โ โ Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle on how the company's A.I. systems will be used for in the future [[Source: Business Insider](https://archive.ph/2Ck66)] This is who is in power now. This is the vision they have.
MastodonDE (mastodon.de)
What a weird coincidence.
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
Moving these servers, despite having no long term impact like data loss, will have some financial impact. Don't feel forced to, your vocal support about this issue was more than enough to turn my evening from a bad to a wonderful one, however if you have the financial resources I'd be happy about a little support:
Erik Uden ๐ (@ErikUden@mastodon.de)
It's the beginning of the month again and that means new bills for the servers (*which we now have to partially move due to Oracle*)! We have [various expenses](https://mastodon.de/@MastodonDE/110811119053549314) and moderation work unfortunately takes up a lot of time, which is why we would be very happy about a little support! :boost_requested: - :liberapay: [LiberaPay](https://liberapay.com/MastodonDE) - :paypal: [PayPal](https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=7CZ4CXZ2L32R8) - :kofi: [Ko-Fi](https://ko-fi.com/MastodonDE) - :patreon: [Patreon](https://patreon.com/MastodonDE) Our services will always remain free, but support so that the whole thing can run in the long term and finance itself is welcome :blobcatmeltlove: For a [longer explanation of the costs and other donation options, look here](https://mastodon.de/@MastodonDE/110811119053549314)!
MastodonDE (mastodon.de)
Where will this money go to ;)?
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
This morning, on February 2nd 2025 at 06:58 (GMT+1) I've received an E-Mail by Oracle stating โYour Oracle Cloud account has been reactivated.โ
I couldn't believe my eyes and didn't really understand how to respond. At the point in time where I received this E-mail, my post regarding Oracle's mistreatment has already gathered thousands of shares and was also discussed heavily on Hacker News among other platforms.
My many pleas and requests from the past week didn't do anything. My GDPR request didn't do anything so far. But within a few hours of public complaints and so many people telling me to take this to court... I guess this was simply the easiest way.
I still don't fully understand the E-Mail I've gotten. It talks about an order about universal credits that occurred at 5:20 AM, where I've been cold asleep. When I login to Oracle Cloud, no such credits exist. Additionally, they don't show up when I look into the โCost and Usage Reportsโ under my account management. Even more interesting are the dozens of files showing an account and server activity, with the calculated cost of it all, for a time period where my account was supposedly irreversibly deleted.
I'll share more interesting findings soon. I am honestly just shocked about this development. I would've expected many things except for a 180.
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
How are there Cost and Usage Reports for a time period where my account didn't exist?
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replied to erikuden@mastodon.de last edited by
I wish my main and inspiring takeaway here would be that we can fight them and win.
However, I was in no control here. The fact this resonated with a lot of people causing an internet wide uproar was nice, but Oracle's legal time could've decided to not care.
Are they taking the wind out of our sails by reinstating my account? Is this their way of admitting and undoing an honest mistake? Would this have happened if I never complained publicly about it, or was my private GDPR request what did the magic here?
I cannot tell you. All I can say is that your account and all your data still exists on Oracle's servers even over a week after your account has been โirreversiblyโ wiped. Keep that in mind the next time support tells you there's nothing they can do.
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