They Have No Idea How Fun The Water Park Is!
-
Yes. We don’t need millions of users to be successful. We come on here for a reason, we enjoy it. And to me that’s all that’s needed for success.
Yup!
I really dislike the notion that every website needs to aim to gather everyone on the internet to it - one platform to rule them all.
Can't we just have lots of smaller sites that have their own communities, cultures, and histories?
-
Half the success of Lemmy is not becoming the three ring circus of Reddit.
How long will it last? Idk. I've already seen people complaining about AI bots blowing up their instances with requests, mining for data. I've already heard complaints of bots manipulating votes on certain subs and accounts.
If that gets worse, Lemmy gets worse.
But for the time being, we're mostly just a large community of terminally online nerds doing our things and sharing amongst one another, which is what Reddit was supposed to be about.
We might eventually have to get more exclusive, or have separate "public" and "private" modes/communities, maybe like how masto handles post visibility...
I'm not sure if the open internet can ever be fully trusted, especially now with roving packs of predatory crawlers scraping for genuine human OC for their plagiarism machines.
-
Yes, in many ways lemm.ee shutting down is a great example of the intention of a federated network at work, but it is also somewhat of a cautionary tale when it comes to centralisation. Ideally the load would be spread as such that any single instance shutting down would be reasonably painless to adjust for. There were already too many users and communities on .ee, really. Imagine what a disaster .world shutting down would be in the current state of things.
Honestly I wonder, hypothetically, if .world shutting down right now would actually be better for the fediverse.
If it continues to be seen as the "default instance" it just becomes a bigger point of failure. And arguably more pernicious, becomes the cultural equivalent of a reddit.
Then I start to think crazy thoughts like what if private capital took an interest in a giant instance. Idk, I'm being way too paranoid I know I know
-
why would they throw all those beans away?!
In exchange for jeans (on Taylor Swift's jet?) of course:-)
-
This post did not contain any content.
Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?
-
Yes. We don’t need millions of users to be successful. We come on here for a reason, we enjoy it. And to me that’s all that’s needed for success.
I come here because I am fairly positive most are actual humans. A lot of the real idiots on reddit are bots looking to increase engagement.
-
Some people made reddit their identity and anything that threatens it scares them.
I heard a guy at a restaurant the other day talking about someone who was "reddit famous". His party had no context for what that meant. I felt bad for that guy
-
Some people make thier whole identity "capitalism bad".
To be fair that's a much more easily defensible position.
-
The whole point of federating is to make those metrics obsolete. What matters more is maintaining the community you have, not infinite growth.
Thank you for clarifying what you previously meant
-
i dont quite know what it means, but lemm.ee is shutting down.. so... successful ?
Because of a lack of admins/mods not due to low users or money
-
Yes, in many ways lemm.ee shutting down is a great example of the intention of a federated network at work, but it is also somewhat of a cautionary tale when it comes to centralisation. Ideally the load would be spread as such that any single instance shutting down would be reasonably painless to adjust for. There were already too many users and communities on .ee, really. Imagine what a disaster .world shutting down would be in the current state of things.
I think it is typical human behavior to congregate to large groups.
-
Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?
Either way, it is successful.
-
I’m pretty sure I got shadow banned twice for just linking Lemmy?
AFAIK it’s mostly not Redditors themselves, but the system they’re stuck in.
While that’s true. I have seen neutral places where people were resistant on trying out Lemmy in the first place. I wish they saw the full value of this place but they said they “don’t care if it’s open-source, decentralized and has good third-party apps. I haven’t heard about it before! Everyone just uses Reddit”
At least I got one guy to check out Lemm.ee a few months back.
-
Decentralized control is probably the biggest asset we have to fight back against these issues. Each instance host has motivation to keep their community in the best shape possible, for users and visitors.
If one instance is having struggles, you can migrate to another - and instance hosts could share tactics and information about the process of management.
Decentralization is more adaptable and brings resilience.
It is easier to compromise one instance, but it is a lot harder to compromise all of them. Meanwhile for centralized social media, if the one is compromised all is compromised.
-
i dont quite know what it means, but lemm.ee is shutting down.. so... successful ?
I mean while yes it’s a tragedy. People have just moved to the other instances such as Piefed.social and Lemmy.zip.
-
Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?
most posts on the piefed feed are posted by lemmings so nahh
but we can be successful collectively
-
I heard a guy at a restaurant the other day talking about someone who was "reddit famous". His party had no context for what that meant. I felt bad for that guy
Redditors really do embarrass themselves often.
-
It's shutting down, but the fediverse is healing around it. Piefed.social has seen a huge influx, and people are moving accounts slowly but surely.
Lemm.ee shutting down isn't ideal from a service stand point, but it is showing how robust the fediverse is. It's acting like the internet used to, routing around damage to continue to work. That's amazing, and hopeful.
My Lemmy experience has been better than Reddit ever was, but that honestly sounds like cope. Vast swaths of people couldn't even be bothered to figure out an instance to pick, now the few that bothered are having to migrate. I think this will be a big net loss for Lemmy.
-
Half the success of Lemmy is not becoming the three ring circus of Reddit.
How long will it last? Idk. I've already seen people complaining about AI bots blowing up their instances with requests, mining for data. I've already heard complaints of bots manipulating votes on certain subs and accounts.
If that gets worse, Lemmy gets worse.
But for the time being, we're mostly just a large community of terminally online nerds doing our things and sharing amongst one another, which is what Reddit was supposed to be about.
Why mine for data when you can just set up your own instance?
-
Decentralization is more adaptable and brings resilience.
It is easier to compromise one instance, but it is a lot harder to compromise all of them. Meanwhile for centralized social media, if the one is compromised all is compromised.
As evident with the owner of X trying to pressure Steve Huffman to burn down Reddit as well.
