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  • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca

    The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

    I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

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    tio_bira@lemmy.world
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    #56

    Nah, Reddit front pages didn't few fresh since 2021 for me, and recently it became worse by the bots posting the same post i saw 5-10 days early again.

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    • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

      Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?

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      jerkface@lemmy.ca
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      #57

      Has anyone come up with a name for the corner of the Fediverse that includes Lemmy, mbin, and PieFed?

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      • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca

        The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

        I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

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        thesambassador@lemmy.world
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        #58

        Sorting by top day and hiding read posts gives me more than enough "fresh content." If you're craving more, maybe that's just the Reddit addiction.

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        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          I doubt they're crawling stuff over AP, you usually need a HTTP signature for that, and no bot is going to bother with those.

          Most crawling would just be spamming the web interface.

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          jerkface@lemmy.ca
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          #59

          If by HTTP signature you mean an SSL certificate signed by an authority, those do not present a burden for bots to obtain any longer.

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          • S stebo02@sopuli.xyz

            most posts on the piefed feed are posted by lemmings so nahh

            but we can be successful collectively 😉

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            dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            #60

            but we can be successful collectively 😉

            that's the spirit!

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            • jerkface@lemmy.caJ jerkface@lemmy.ca

              If by HTTP signature you mean an SSL certificate signed by an authority, those do not present a burden for bots to obtain any longer.

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              irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #61

              I do not, ActivityPub uses HTTP signatures to make sure messages and requests from other servers are legit,

              Essentially, it adds a "signature" header which contains a link to a users public key, a list of headers in the message and a signed hash of all the headers and the request.

              There's a better explaination here: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/security/

              A delicated bot to scrape ActivityPub posts is possible, but generic bots shouldn't work. If a delicated bot is made, people can block its keys or server anyway.

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              • jerkface@lemmy.caJ jerkface@lemmy.ca

                Has anyone come up with a name for the corner of the Fediverse that includes Lemmy, mbin, and PieFed?

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                transform2942@lemmy.ml
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                #62

                Yes, "threadiverse"

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                • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  I do not, ActivityPub uses HTTP signatures to make sure messages and requests from other servers are legit,

                  Essentially, it adds a "signature" header which contains a link to a users public key, a list of headers in the message and a signed hash of all the headers and the request.

                  There's a better explaination here: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/security/

                  A delicated bot to scrape ActivityPub posts is possible, but generic bots shouldn't work. If a delicated bot is made, people can block its keys or server anyway.

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                  jerkface@lemmy.ca
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                  #63

                  Sorry, forgot to whom I was speaking.

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                  • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

                    Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?

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                    vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
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                    #64

                    ...same-same

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                    • Q quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works

                      I heard a guy at a restaurant the other day talking about someone who was "reddit famous". His party had no context for what that meant. I felt bad for that guy

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                      vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
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                      #65

                      I throw lemmy into the discussion like we matter with zero explanation.

                      "BROS, DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT SHIT THAT BLEW UP LEMMY AND REDDIT?!"

                      no, what was it?

                      haven't heard, do tell!

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                      • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub

                        I throw lemmy into the discussion like we matter with zero explanation.

                        "BROS, DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT SHIT THAT BLEW UP LEMMY AND REDDIT?!"

                        no, what was it?

                        haven't heard, do tell!

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                        quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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                        #66

                        In my friend group that might work but my family, not so much.

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                        • jerkface@lemmy.caJ jerkface@lemmy.ca

                          Has anyone come up with a name for the corner of the Fediverse that includes Lemmy, mbin, and PieFed?

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                          coldsideofyourpillow@piefed.social
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                          #67

                          Collectively, they're part of the Threadiverse, which is a subset of the Fediverse that focuses on threaded content. Technically, though, Mbin is not strictly a part of the Threadiverse, as it also allows microblogging.

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                          • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

                            Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?

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                            compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            #68

                            That’s the beauty of it - it doesn’t matter, since it’s all the Threadiverse. Lemmy, Piefed, mbin, whatever else may come along. As long as they all use ActivityPub, they’re all interoperable, and people can choose whichever one suits them best. Afaik, though, Lemmy is still far and away the most popular right now

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                            • jerkface@lemmy.caJ jerkface@lemmy.ca

                              Has anyone come up with a name for the corner of the Fediverse that includes Lemmy, mbin, and PieFed?

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                              natanael@infosec.pub
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                              #69

                              The c's? (for the /c/ links for the communities here, and it sounds like "the seas")

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                              • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca

                                The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

                                I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

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                                korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                                #70

                                I find there is new content but so often a lot of it is US politics based. Some other stuff does exist but its hard to filter out the stuff I don't care about at times.

                                Sure I can subscribe to other communities, but finding them can be difficult and searching for all is swamped by Trump and Musk.

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                                • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

                                  Is it still Lemmy, or is PieFed close to overtaking?

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                                  nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  #71

                                  And here's a problem. Even I, pretty tech savvy user, can't keep up with all this. I look away for a moment, and you'all on a new meta already, all the old servers are bad now and all the cool kids on a new system already. I can't imagine anyone with an advanced grass-touching ability being able to keep up with all this shit.

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                                    epicstove@lemmy.ca
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                                    I have both Lemmy and reddit.

                                    The front page on Lemmy changes every week.

                                    On reddit it changes daily.

                                    The only new posts I see best the end of the day on Lemmy are all in German.

                                    Don't get me wrong, Lemmy is great, but it's got a LONG way to crawl to get to reddit's level of success.

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                                    • E epicstove@lemmy.ca

                                      I have both Lemmy and reddit.

                                      The front page on Lemmy changes every week.

                                      On reddit it changes daily.

                                      The only new posts I see best the end of the day on Lemmy are all in German.

                                      Don't get me wrong, Lemmy is great, but it's got a LONG way to crawl to get to reddit's level of success.

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                                      empricorn@feddit.nl
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                                      #73

                                      I ditched Reddit 2 years ago and haven't been back. This is a self-solving problem: as more people use and contribute, there will be more content and engagement.

                                      But as a heavy user of Lemmy (and previously of Reddit), there's things you can do. Chief among them is switching from the "Active" list to "Hot" when you want to see new stuff. I pretty much never run out of content, and that's without even dipping into "New"...

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                                        fondue@lemmy.world
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                                        Bit of a community question on the OP theme:

                                        I see a lot of yard-sticking with Reddit, and frequent comparisons are 1) more of Reddit should migrate here and 2) not enough content is generated in Lemmy. These are both confusing to me. Anyone else?

                                        1. Reddit is a cesspool. Its users are often toxic. Administration and moderation is burdensome. With self-hosted and decentral-hosted Lemmy instances, why would we want more of Reddit to come here? Other than the philosopher king meme, I don't feel the urge to bring R. communities and users to L. Separation is good, no?

                                        2. Content follows users. Users follow content. Lemmy has less content. Fewer social games and participants who are seeking a dopamine relationship with the internet. If you come to Lemmy seeking dopamine fandom, you will be disappointed (narwhal bacon and my axe this amirite lol). That shite is generally absent, and users aren't constantly jerking themselves off to get a spicy comment in for votes. This is good, no?

                                        I guess I don't understand the attraction to Reddit, or the urge to think of Lemmy as a replacement. It is similar, but shouldn't it be different? If it isn't different, defederated or no, won't it eventually slide into toxicity? I understand why people like things about Reddit, but... There's Reddit for that. This doesn't have to be that.

                                        Thinking of two groceries: one is a little odd spot that is run by an eclectic family, has some stuff you want, some odd German snacks you don't understand. It's cool, but it doesn't have everything.

                                        The other is a giant stucco nightmare warehouse that mostly sells deep fried heroin and also ten extremely useful things. It's run by absolute creeps, and the customers are standing uncomfortably close, and being uncomfortably irritating. Maybe one of them is waiting to follow you home because they didn't like what you bought.

                                        Does the community want to put a sign out front to woo those people over? Does Lemmy perish without them? I'm relatively new here, but my own answer to both is no. IMO, Lemmy does not need to be an engagement addiction machine, and the people who want that might just really be wanting Reddit deep down.

                                        Sorry for the diatribe! I tend to like that it's kinda sleepy here and often more authentic. I like seeing what Germany is doing on a memie wemie from time to time. I've got other shit to do beyond my phone, and don't want to have a pack of digital ultra nicotine with me at all times. Peace, homies.

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                                        • E epicstove@lemmy.ca

                                          I have both Lemmy and reddit.

                                          The front page on Lemmy changes every week.

                                          On reddit it changes daily.

                                          The only new posts I see best the end of the day on Lemmy are all in German.

                                          Don't get me wrong, Lemmy is great, but it's got a LONG way to crawl to get to reddit's level of success.

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                                          industrystandard@lemmy.world
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                                          Reddit is people reposting stuff from Twitter, so what you are saying is that we need to repost more stuff from Twitter.

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