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Is this the typical behaviour of fediverse users? Posts in Apple and Nintendo communities immediately get downvoted by people disliking the companies. Can’t they just block the communities?

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  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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    rikudou@lemmings.world
    wrote last edited by
    #41

    No, that's a hyperbole to better explain the point. It's a common technique.

    Anyway, Hitler is hard to top, but Apple with their support of literal bullying of people is not as nice as you might think.

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    • B boozeorwater@feddit.uk

      They have been banned for 7 days.

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      rikudou@lemmings.world
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      #42

      For providing an example? Nice, classy.

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      • rikudou@lemmings.worldR rikudou@lemmings.world

        No, that's a hyperbole to better explain the point. It's a common technique.

        Anyway, Hitler is hard to top, but Apple with their support of literal bullying of people is not as nice as you might think.

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        missingno@fedia.io
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        #43

        You know why it's not a good comparison? Because I'm not going to report someone to instance admins for talking about the new Mario Kart.

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        • cloudless@piefed.socialC cloudless@piefed.social
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          rentlar@lemmy.ca
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          #44

          Yes. It takes real restraint for me not to reflexively downvote news I don't like, or posts that makes me cringe but they're legitimate for the topic at hand. Also sometimes I downvote by accident without realizing.

          Asking why things are downvoted or complaining about them are the two most surefire ways to receive plenty of them on the Threadiverse.

          Upvotes or downvotes aren't worth anything, don't take it personally if you get downvoted. I've said unpopular stuff too and received downvotes. Once I wrote a raunchy joke and the votes on it went (1 -> 0-> 3 -> -5 -> 6 -> 20)

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          • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

            I don't like linux, should I downvote all linux stuff? Does that make the fediverse better?

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            spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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            #45

            Sure, go for it. I literally do not care how people use single accounts to vote on any topic.

            When they use multiple accounts, yeah that is clearly terrible because they are artificially inflating their votes.

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            • S sergio@lemmy.world

              My favorite take on this.

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              spankmonkey@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #46

              It's funny because several mods on that instance do ban people for downvotes.

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              • S skavau@piefed.social

                Or I could just ban repeat downvoters lol

                (Have only done this twice since making the transition)

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                spankmonkey@lemmy.world
                wrote last edited by
                #47

                Do you take their overall up/down ratio into account?

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                • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                  verifiably false

                  Can you provide a link to show that? I went looking but the cross-posts that I saw were in !Apple@lemmy.world and !Apple@lemmy.zip. Since both have "Apple" in the name, that does not seem entirely like spam to me - unless you mean the content is low quality?

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                  oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works
                  wrote last edited by
                  #48

                  I meant that's how I personally downvote. I don't subscribe to either Apple or Nintendo communities but I do see the cross posting spam in other communities and suggested it as a possible reason other people are downvoting.

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                  • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS spankmonkey@lemmy.world

                    Do you take their overall up/down ratio into account?

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                    skavau@piefed.social
                    wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                    #49

                    No. I will note though that half of the people I banned for downvoting on the old lemm.ee instance didn't even have a comment history. Their accounts only existed to downvote. Others had been banned repeatedly by other communities for mass community downvoting. But even if they did, I would've still banned them. They were constantly downvoting new posts posted to the community and had no engagement with the community in comments or posts. How they may have behaved outside of it wouldn't have come into it for me.

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                    • O oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works

                      I meant that's how I personally downvote. I don't subscribe to either Apple or Nintendo communities but I do see the cross posting spam in other communities and suggested it as a possible reason other people are downvoting.

                      openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      openstars@piefed.social
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                      #50

                      Thank you for the explanation - upvoting btw (unless you cross-post your explanation where it does not belong, then I guess we should downvote it? :-P)

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                      • openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        openstars@piefed.social
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                        #51

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                        • F finitebanjo@piefed.world

                          If I see them in the feed then yes. Would you downvote a post promoting Adolf Hitler even if it was on a nazi community?

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                          openstars@piefed.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #52

                          But why not simply block the community? An "Apple" news item in a community dedicated to "Apple" seems entirely relevant to me, and if I do not like "Apple" then I would want not to influence others to not see that one specific post but to see no similar posts in the future, which is accomplished by blocking the community rather than downvoting.

                          It would be like if I said that I hated your username b/c I do not like banjos - I don't btw, I love your username actually:-P - but really, who cares, as in why is my opinion relevant in that context? It is your username, you can name yourself whatever you like! I respect that.

                          Why not respect the preferences of others then, even if they decide to like "Apple"? (I am ignoring the comparison to Hitler b/c that is not merely hyperbole as in quantitatively different but of the same kind, and rather that one is a fully qualitative difference in kind)

                          You cannot change the entire world - certainly not merely by downvoting. All that you will accomplish by not respecting others' legitimate preferences will be to influence people's opinions of yourself.

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                          • C chapo_is_red@hexbear.net

                            In Hexbear we don't have down votes, so you have to engage with someone to express disapproval

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                            nakoichi@hexbear.net
                            wrote last edited by
                            #53

                            Fun fact 90% of piefed users can't see your comment because the code comes with baked in blocking of hexbear and Lemmygrad lmao. If they can't handle down votes they could never handle getting dunked on by us.

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                            • kolanaki@pawb.socialK kolanaki@pawb.social

                              So does simply downvoting the wrong user who made a bot to autoban people who downvoted them. 🤷‍♂️

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                              openstars@piefed.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #54

                              The bots that I have heard of - I think it was called Santa or some such? - all require much more than a single downvote.

                              I dunno, if someone followed me around and downvoted half the stuff that I ever posted, I might make a bot to block them too. The key there is the severity of the "offense".

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                              • C chapo_is_red@hexbear.net

                                In Hexbear we don't have down votes, so you have to engage with someone to express disapproval

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                                carl@hexbear.net
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                                #55

                                Instead of downvotes, we have many, many disapproving emotes.

                                downbear

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                                • cloudless@piefed.socialC cloudless@piefed.social
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                                  cris_color@lemmy.world
                                  wrote last edited by cris_color@lemmy.world
                                  #56

                                  Not made by me, but excellent oc by another lemmite https://startrek.website/post/27897300

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                                  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                                    The bots that I have heard of - I think it was called Santa or some such? - all require much more than a single downvote.

                                    I dunno, if someone followed me around and downvoted half the stuff that I ever posted, I might make a bot to block them too. The key there is the severity of the "offense".

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                                    kolanaki@pawb.social
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                                    #57

                                    There was at least one guy on here that basically didn't have weights to his script so someone seeing a post for the first time on All had a very high chance of being seen as a "serial downvoter" from a single negative interaction without a single positive interaction to counter it. It was quite funny but I would hope they fixed that by now.

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                                    • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS spankmonkey@lemmy.world

                                      Sure, go for it. I literally do not care how people use single accounts to vote on any topic.

                                      When they use multiple accounts, yeah that is clearly terrible because they are artificially inflating their votes.

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                                      mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                                      #58

                                      Weird thread to be commenting on if you literally don't care but you do you!

                                      I personally think this sort of stuff helps keep the fediverse from being awesome but you do you!

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                                      • M mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca

                                        Weird thread to be commenting on if you literally don't care but you do you!

                                        I personally think this sort of stuff helps keep the fediverse from being awesome but you do you!

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                                        spankmonkey@lemmy.world
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                                        #59

                                        I care about voting freely, not the actual vote results.

                                        I upvote a shit ton of stuff which makes it more visible. That helps the fediverse. The shitty posts and comments that I downvote are what I see keeping the fediverse from being awesome.

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                                        • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS spankmonkey@lemmy.world

                                          I care about voting freely, not the actual vote results.

                                          I upvote a shit ton of stuff which makes it more visible. That helps the fediverse. The shitty posts and comments that I downvote are what I see keeping the fediverse from being awesome.

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                                          mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                                          #60

                                          Except, and I'm stunned this is a surprise to some but here we are, not everyone agrees on what's awesome and what's shitty.

                                          So, in OP's case, the people who come here to talk about the nintendo games and then decide to take the plunge and post something are met with downvotes for having the audacity to post in a harmless community that others don't like.

                                          It's lame and makes the fediverse less fun for folks, which is poison for somewhere that depends on network effects.

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