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  • thordros@hexbear.netT thordros@hexbear.net

    I feel this on a deep level. Blocking Hexbear has been amazing for my sanity!

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    fxomt@anarchist.nexus
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    • thordros@hexbear.netT thordros@hexbear.net

      I feel this on a deep level. Blocking Hexbear has been amazing for my sanity!

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      flyberius@hexbear.net
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      #18

      thinkin-lenin

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      • R robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net

        hitler-detector

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        fxomt@anarchist.nexus
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        #19

        The joys of federation lol

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        • fxomt@anarchist.nexusF fxomt@anarchist.nexus

          Its in Lemmy 1.0, when that releases all instances will support the feature

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          lemmyknow@lemmy.today
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          #20

          Uhhh… 1.0? Is Lemmy Beta?

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          • L lemmyknow@lemmy.today

            Uhhh… 1.0? Is Lemmy Beta?

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            fxomt@anarchist.nexus
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            #21

            Pretty much. We're still on 0.19.12. Next version should be the very first 1.0 release.

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            • flyberius@hexbear.netF flyberius@hexbear.net

              thinkin-lenin

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              flax_vert@feddit.uk
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              #22

              I find hexbearians to be the funniest people on the fedi

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              • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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                mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                #23

                What happened do vegantheoryclub?

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                • fxomt@anarchist.nexusF fxomt@anarchist.nexus

                  Pretty much. We're still on 0.19.12. Next version should be the very first 1.0 release.

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                  lemmyknow@lemmy.today
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                  #24

                  1.19.12 -> 1.0 ???

                  How does this version numbering system work?

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                  • L lemmyknow@lemmy.today

                    1.19.12 -> 1.0 ???

                    How does this version numbering system work?

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                    bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
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                    #25

                    They made a typo. It's 0.19.12.

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                    • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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                      openstars@piefed.social
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                      #26

                      Nope - it is far worse than that, it also does not block messages either, only communities.

                      And worse than that even is that it used to do so, but the so-called "instance block" has actually gotten weaker over time. Imagine receiving notifications to your inbox for WEEKS and WEEKS upon making what you thought was a fairly innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse... and then going through all that again on Lemmygrad.ml! Purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

                      If you don't like let's say Lemmy.ml, then you are free to either block each and every single user on it individually (which one guy, ptz, actually did that! 🀣), or you are free to leave Lemmy itself (which I did myself, and am now enjoying the fantastic experience on PieFed! ❣️), or if you can find one you may join an instance that defederates from them (note that no major instances are willing to do so). Welcome to Reddit 2.0! Remember not to say anything bad about Russia, China, or North Korea or you'll be instance-wide banned from communities that you've never even heard of before! πŸ˜›

                      The "instance block" really is horribly misnamed - it should have been called a "community muting" imho. Oh well, what do I know, and here I thought that Lemmy.ml was a community for FOSS enthusiasts, hur-dur I wonder where I could have gotten that silly idea from!? πŸ€ͺ

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                      • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                        Nope - it is far worse than that, it also does not block messages either, only communities.

                        And worse than that even is that it used to do so, but the so-called "instance block" has actually gotten weaker over time. Imagine receiving notifications to your inbox for WEEKS and WEEKS upon making what you thought was a fairly innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse... and then going through all that again on Lemmygrad.ml! Purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

                        If you don't like let's say Lemmy.ml, then you are free to either block each and every single user on it individually (which one guy, ptz, actually did that! 🀣), or you are free to leave Lemmy itself (which I did myself, and am now enjoying the fantastic experience on PieFed! ❣️), or if you can find one you may join an instance that defederates from them (note that no major instances are willing to do so). Welcome to Reddit 2.0! Remember not to say anything bad about Russia, China, or North Korea or you'll be instance-wide banned from communities that you've never even heard of before! πŸ˜›

                        The "instance block" really is horribly misnamed - it should have been called a "community muting" imho. Oh well, what do I know, and here I thought that Lemmy.ml was a community for FOSS enthusiasts, hur-dur I wonder where I could have gotten that silly idea from!? πŸ€ͺ

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                        m532@lemmygrad.ml
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                        What did you write that got you weeks of comments?

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                        • G gigachad@piefed.social

                          I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

                          • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
                          • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
                          • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
                          • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

                          Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

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                          rimu@piefed.social
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                          Yes, I think so.

                          Although this one: ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world - I'm not sure about that. I doubt you'd see anything posted by a .ml user.

                          Defederation is another layer of blocking and it works almost the same but slightly differently too.

                          Honestly I haven't systematically tested all the possible combinations of settings and all the different places where it might have an effect on other instances. It's a lot. Also most of the blocking code was written almost 2 years ago so it's not something I look at often anymore.

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                          • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev

                            Hey, I wanted to confirm something. Does that mean the blocklist of users are sent to the community's instance?

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                            rimu@piefed.social
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                            No, we check your blocklist before sending and just don't send there if it's an instance you've blocked.

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                            • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                              Nope - it is far worse than that, it also does not block messages either, only communities.

                              And worse than that even is that it used to do so, but the so-called "instance block" has actually gotten weaker over time. Imagine receiving notifications to your inbox for WEEKS and WEEKS upon making what you thought was a fairly innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse... and then going through all that again on Lemmygrad.ml! Purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

                              If you don't like let's say Lemmy.ml, then you are free to either block each and every single user on it individually (which one guy, ptz, actually did that! 🀣), or you are free to leave Lemmy itself (which I did myself, and am now enjoying the fantastic experience on PieFed! ❣️), or if you can find one you may join an instance that defederates from them (note that no major instances are willing to do so). Welcome to Reddit 2.0! Remember not to say anything bad about Russia, China, or North Korea or you'll be instance-wide banned from communities that you've never even heard of before! πŸ˜›

                              The "instance block" really is horribly misnamed - it should have been called a "community muting" imho. Oh well, what do I know, and here I thought that Lemmy.ml was a community for FOSS enthusiasts, hur-dur I wonder where I could have gotten that silly idea from!? πŸ€ͺ

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                              mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                              And don't you dare say ML has a reputation for banning people, because ML will ban you for that.

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                              • G gigachad@piefed.social

                                I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

                                • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
                                • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
                                • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
                                • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

                                Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

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                                diva@lemmy.ml
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                                • G gigachad@piefed.social

                                  I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

                                  • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
                                  • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
                                  • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
                                  • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

                                  Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

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                                  tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                  #32

                                  i blocked the tankie instances, but it wont stop tankie accounts from being seen by you, if they comment on another instance. they only pose a problem if they post outside of tech related posts.

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                                  • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                                    No, we check your blocklist before sending and just don't send there if it's an instance you've blocked.

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                                    asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
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                                    So the user's instance sends the activity? The community's instance doesn't do the sending?

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                                    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de

                                      They made a typo. It's 0.19.12.

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                                      fxomt@anarchist.nexus
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                                      #34

                                      fuck i didn't notice lol, thank you for the correction; edited

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                                      • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev

                                        So the user's instance sends the activity? The community's instance doesn't do the sending?

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                                        rimu@piefed.social
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                                        Oh, now I see what you're getting at. No, if the user and the community are on different instances then the community instance wouldn't know what the user has blocked. What I said earlier assumes you're posting on a local community.

                                        But honestly why wouldn't everyone just be a piefed.social user and post exclusively in piefed.social communities? πŸ˜‰ /s

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                                        • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                                          Oh, now I see what you're getting at. No, if the user and the community are on different instances then the community instance wouldn't know what the user has blocked. What I said earlier assumes you're posting on a local community.

                                          But honestly why wouldn't everyone just be a piefed.social user and post exclusively in piefed.social communities? πŸ˜‰ /s

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                                          asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
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                                          #36

                                          Ah okay, got it. Thanks for the info. Sorry for the previous misunderstanding.

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