They do yes

does not change the fact though

The way I see it funding for Lemmy development is entirely separate from lemmy.ml moderation. That is something for the local admins and users to decide, and they are happy with the status quo.

Sure, in a pedantic sense they did the wrong thing

(also tagging @BaroqueInMind@piefed.social)

There is an entire community dedicated to this at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (see especially the megathread post with many linked examples), while other communities mostly have stopped talking about it since it is such common knowledge (therefore "old news" and thus off topic), but see also some posts in e.g. !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com .

I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I've ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.

Edit: also there is this interesting post: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531 .

I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I’ve ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.

What does defederating mean?

A complete cutoff of all communication between instances (servers). Theoretically should only be used as a last resort, where the instance admins refuse to moderate their userbase, but in practice there seem to be several instances that contribute mainly negative (i.e. trolling) content to the rest of the Fediverse, in which case losing everything from them - all the good but also all the bad too - becomes worth it.

See also the "Nazi bar" effect: YOU may not be a Nazi, nor any of your friends, and you may meet separately like a quiet corner or back room, but if you hang out in a bar that becomes known for being friendly to Nazis, then anyone you invite to join you at the bar is likely to deny your request. The possibility of goodness of conversations with you in that case gets outweighed by the likelihood of bad interactions with the Nazis that they would have to pass by on their way to you.

Although in the case of Lemmy, it is not Alt-Right Nazis, but Alt-Left tankies, at hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and to a lesser but still very significant degree lemmy.ml.

I would like to know this as well but you came across so strong here that I think you will never get an answer to this implementation of your question:-)

It's too bad most people, including yourself, are intolerant prudes and nothing will change towards a positive trend in your lifetime.

Perhaps I am... and perhaps you are too, and is that even wrong/bad, to have opinions about what we like or do not?

The world is as it is, not as we wish it. That said, power comes from realizing that and turning it to your advantage. I wanted to gently push you to consider that, but I may have come on too strong myself. Don't let me ruin your day!

Y'all pay your mods?

Your de-escalation skills should be taught everywhere.

No, although I guess I would hope that instances take care of their mods. Good point actually

Thank you for your kind words:-)