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  • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

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    Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
    Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
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    Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
    Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
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    Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
    Jen: I mean... probably

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    ptsf@lemmy.world
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    Something that people are missing with the whole physical media situation is that it being physical does not preclude it from internet connected DRM, server requirements, etc. It just so happens that around the turn of this century DVDs came along and lacked sophisticated/connected DRM implementations, but it is not inherent to their physical nature. Physical media also decays. DVDs generally have around 20-25 years before bitrot starts to set in. I love the concept, but you're better served by a hard drive than a DVD.

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    • A andros_rex@lemmy.world

      I picked up a season 1 Metalocalypse from a thrift shop and it was dead. It’s such a gamble. Goodwill is getting really precious on their DVDs too - only really good deals if you find a season/box set that they haven’t broken up.

      VHS seems more dependable, and VHS is dirt cheap. I got a pre-special edition Star Wars box set for $5, I got a season of MASH and Sergio Leone’s Dollars trilogy for $1 each. Lots of my local shops have $0.49 VHS bins.

      Finding a VHS player can be a challenge. DVD players are super available, but I spent a month or so hunting for my current player. (The rewinders though - everywhere.)

      Vinyl can also be found for pennies, but most of the good stuff is picked up quickly. If you are okay with mid jazz, classical music, and “greatest hits” compilations, the vinyl stacks are good to poke through.

      I do like that all of my analog media is mine. No worries about it being pulled from streaming or altered or copyright weirdness - I can go back to 1998 and watch my Star Wars.

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      monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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      #33

      VHS, like video casettes? You might have forgotten about ghosting due to overwriting from adjacent layers.

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      • R rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        or just download better quality files for your NAS

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        monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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        Not in my language and streams are compressed dead.

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        • pika@sh.itjust.worksP pika@sh.itjust.works

          Yeah, DVD players and Blu-ray players are going the way of the VHS player. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find one that isn't super locked down by some form of DRM and just works.

          And if you're trying to find one for computers, forget about it. You spend an arm and a leg trying to find anything that isn't just your typical DVD only, no Blu-ray or 4K. Blu-ray is a little more pricey, but any type of actual 4K player for computers, you're spending $$$ unless you're willing to try to patch it with a custom firmware.

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          monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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          $80 for Verbatim Slimline Blu-ray half a year ago, now $95 and the internal player changed, not LibreDrive ootb anymore, but still flashable.

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          • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee

            Those don't come with disc drives anymore unless you're willing to pay extra.

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            atlien51@lemm.ee
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            Bro.

            Not everyone has ps5/xbox series x, the discless version .

            Plenty of people have ps4/xbox series x (disc version), xbox one, Xbox 360/ps3 in the attic somewhere, an old laptop/desktop…need I go on?

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            • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubB bdonvr@thelemmy.club

              Rip your DVDs.

              You can even just straight rip them to .iso and enjoy full quality with menus and all. I think Jellyfin supports that at least.

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              fundmecfsresearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              and feel free to share the rarer ones with the torrent community

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              • W webghost0101@sopuli.xyz

                Useful website: https://b3n.org/automatic-ripping-machine/

                For other usefull resources check your public library. Lots of overlap between
                Librarians and archivists.

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                cenzorrll@lemmy.world
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                Libraries are awesome. Also, I think a lot of people don't realize that DVDs are pretty good quality. They're used to YouTube 480p, with the bitrate of a slug and heavy artifacts that have been converted 20 times to different formats. Actual 480p ripped directly from a DVD is pretty damn good.

                The ripping of your personal DVDs and libraries also having DVDs is just a coincidence, of course.

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                • M monkdervierte@lemmy.ml

                  VHS, like video casettes? You might have forgotten about ghosting due to overwriting from adjacent layers.

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                  andros_rex@lemmy.world
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                  #39

                  Decreased video quality is an improvement over the nothing at all that one gets from failed optical media though.

                  I do have a ripper device - wanting to get into archiving rare media but Windows 11 in all of its glory has decided that it doesn’t trust me enough to let me choose to install third party drivers 🙄

                  The ideal is a mix - but also, as a certified broke bitch I’ll take a 49 tape with ghosting issues over a $3.09 shiny thing that isn’t even a good paperweight if it’s dead.

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                  • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                    @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

                    Alt text
                    ::: spoiler Spoiler

                    Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                    Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                    -
                    Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                    Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                    -
                    Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                    Jen: I mean... probably

                    :::

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                    dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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                    I still have my ps3 mainly for this reason

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                    • A atlien51@lemm.ee

                      Bro.

                      Not everyone has ps5/xbox series x, the discless version .

                      Plenty of people have ps4/xbox series x (disc version), xbox one, Xbox 360/ps3 in the attic somewhere, an old laptop/desktop…need I go on?

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                      5too@lemmy.world
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                      My last few laptops haven't had one either. And I've been seeing fewer options for DVD players when I build a new PC, I suspect they're going absent there as well.

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                      • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                        @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

                        Alt text
                        ::: spoiler Spoiler

                        Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                        Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                        -
                        Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                        Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                        -
                        Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                        Jen: I mean... probably

                        :::

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                        bubs@lemm.ee
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                        Everyone arguing over DVD players or ripping discs and I'm like "Ooooo! M.A.S.H. collection!"

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                        • jqubed@lemmy.worldJ jqubed@lemmy.world

                          @admiralwonderboat@mastodon.social among other places

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                          ::: spoiler Spoiler

                          Jen is loading DVD's into a donation box.
                          Admiral: Stop!! You can't get rid of our DVD's! What if the streaming sites go down?!
                          -
                          Admiral: What'll we watch if there's an apocalypse? The NEWS?!
                          Jen: You're right! DVD's are essential for survival!
                          -
                          Admiral: We still have a DVD player, right?
                          Jen: I mean... probably

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                          Well, a good hoarder/prepper always keep a nice stack of DVD players and VCRs in their underground bunker. 🙃

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                          • P ptsf@lemmy.world

                            Something that people are missing with the whole physical media situation is that it being physical does not preclude it from internet connected DRM, server requirements, etc. It just so happens that around the turn of this century DVDs came along and lacked sophisticated/connected DRM implementations, but it is not inherent to their physical nature. Physical media also decays. DVDs generally have around 20-25 years before bitrot starts to set in. I love the concept, but you're better served by a hard drive than a DVD.

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                            orochi02@feddit.org
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                            Dont hard drives only keep data for 5-10 years (when not in use)?

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                              Decreased video quality is an improvement over the nothing at all that one gets from failed optical media though.

                              I do have a ripper device - wanting to get into archiving rare media but Windows 11 in all of its glory has decided that it doesn’t trust me enough to let me choose to install third party drivers 🙄

                              The ideal is a mix - but also, as a certified broke bitch I’ll take a 49 tape with ghosting issues over a $3.09 shiny thing that isn’t even a good paperweight if it’s dead.

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                              monkdervierte@lemmy.ml
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                              Try Linux then? Setup is a bit of work but i got it running for makemkv and Handbrake.

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                              • S slaacaa@lemmy.world

                                That’s why a PS5 (or another console) is very useful. Sometimes a movie is not available on any streaming, so I get it it cheaply on blu ray or dvd to watch it. We don’t have any other disc player in the house, despite having a few laptops.

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                                bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
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                                except dogma, that one is actually super expensive on dvd

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                                • O orochi02@feddit.org

                                  Dont hard drives only keep data for 5-10 years (when not in use)?

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                                  ptsf@lemmy.world
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                                  It depends on the drive and the type of drive, but generally they actually start to suffer bit rot after 6-12 months if they're left without power at all. DVDs also suffer from bit-rot on short time scales, especially if stored improperly. Also migrating data or having a copy of it on a hard drive is easy, copying DVDs is legally gray, difficult, and they really only make sense as a delivery vehicle for the file to a drive or tape (if you prefer something genuinely long-term storage ready).

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                                  • A atlien51@lemm.ee

                                    Bro.

                                    Not everyone has ps5/xbox series x, the discless version .

                                    Plenty of people have ps4/xbox series x (disc version), xbox one, Xbox 360/ps3 in the attic somewhere, an old laptop/desktop…need I go on?

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                                    rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee
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                                    Bro. You were the one acting like everyone has something that plays dvds.

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                                    • A atlien51@lemm.ee

                                      Bro.

                                      Not everyone has ps5/xbox series x, the discless version .

                                      Plenty of people have ps4/xbox series x (disc version), xbox one, Xbox 360/ps3 in the attic somewhere, an old laptop/desktop…need I go on?

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                                      honytawk@feddit.nl
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                                      But not everyone has those now do they?

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                                      • H honytawk@feddit.nl

                                        But not everyone has those now do they?

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                                        atlien51@lemm.ee
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                                        Yeah. I’m not tryina account for every single person on earth. I’m just saying chances are you have at least 1 of those devices for a lot of ppl

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