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  • F flihpflorp@lemm.ee

    So given lemm.ee is shutting down, what exactly is piefed

    All ik is it’s a different “app” than lemmy but still communicates with it

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    mesamunefire@piefed.social
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    #4

    Basically. Everything is still fediverse. Its just a different flavor. And has many benefits.

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    • F flihpflorp@lemm.ee

      So given lemm.ee is shutting down, what exactly is piefed

      All ik is it’s a different “app” than lemmy but still communicates with it

      flamingos@feddit.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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      flamingos@feddit.uk
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      #5

      Basically a Python implementation of Lemmy, so they can talk to and share content with each other. Has different features and development priorities, which may or may not appeal to you.

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      • F flihpflorp@lemm.ee

        So given lemm.ee is shutting down, what exactly is piefed

        All ik is it’s a different “app” than lemmy but still communicates with it

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        vaguerant@fedia.io
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        As you're kind of implying by putting "app" in scare quotes, it's really an entirely separate platform. Any service that implements ActivityPub can theoretically access any part of the fediverse. There's a subset of the fediverse (sometimes called the threadiverse) which platforms like Lemmy and PieFed are built to work with, where you have threads organized into communities and up- and downvote stuff.

        PieFed and Lemmy have largely similar goals in the sense that they're two ways to join and interact in the same threadiverse communities, but PieFed's development has been characterized by rapid growth, as indicated in the meme. This means it can do most or all of what Lemmy does, plus extra stuff that's exclusive to PieFed.

        Right now, that means things like anonymous voting, de-duplication of posts (they get combined into a single post with separate comment sections of each repost), filtering of "bad" images (like in the Nicole gore saga), warning labels on link posts with unreliable sources, support for "topics" (like multireddits from the old place), a marker for consistently low-reputation users; basically, it's a bunch of quality-of-life stuff. In theory, rapid development could also mean things breaking more often, although I haven't seen any of that personally.

        I'm commenting from Mbin, a whole separate platform again, so arguably I'm impartial. I don't have an account on either Lemmy or PieFed.

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        • vaguerant@fedia.ioV vaguerant@fedia.io

          As you're kind of implying by putting "app" in scare quotes, it's really an entirely separate platform. Any service that implements ActivityPub can theoretically access any part of the fediverse. There's a subset of the fediverse (sometimes called the threadiverse) which platforms like Lemmy and PieFed are built to work with, where you have threads organized into communities and up- and downvote stuff.

          PieFed and Lemmy have largely similar goals in the sense that they're two ways to join and interact in the same threadiverse communities, but PieFed's development has been characterized by rapid growth, as indicated in the meme. This means it can do most or all of what Lemmy does, plus extra stuff that's exclusive to PieFed.

          Right now, that means things like anonymous voting, de-duplication of posts (they get combined into a single post with separate comment sections of each repost), filtering of "bad" images (like in the Nicole gore saga), warning labels on link posts with unreliable sources, support for "topics" (like multireddits from the old place), a marker for consistently low-reputation users; basically, it's a bunch of quality-of-life stuff. In theory, rapid development could also mean things breaking more often, although I haven't seen any of that personally.

          I'm commenting from Mbin, a whole separate platform again, so arguably I'm impartial. I don't have an account on either Lemmy or PieFed.

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          bagofheavystones@piefed.social
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          #7

          I'm here for the de duplication. It's great.

          Still waiting for a stable non-pwa app (interstellar isn't there yet) but unless I'm lying on my side (the PWA goes landscape irrespective of Android settings) it's my daily driver now 🙂

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            And also when you don't look away too, except it's somehow even more awesome watching it build itself real-time:-).

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            • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

              I'm here for the de duplication. It's great.

              Still waiting for a stable non-pwa app (interstellar isn't there yet) but unless I'm lying on my side (the PWA goes landscape irrespective of Android settings) it's my daily driver now 🙂

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              FYI, not sure why, but this comment was taggued in Portuguese for some reason: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45867045/19183694

              Also, isn't Interstellar now fully supporting Piefed? https://piefed.social/post/817564

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                hello@retrolemmy.com
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                I cant comment when using interstellar though

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                • F flihpflorp@lemm.ee

                  So given lemm.ee is shutting down, what exactly is piefed

                  All ik is it’s a different “app” than lemmy but still communicates with it

                  openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  openstars@piefed.social
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                  PieFed is like Lemmy in the same way that Lemmy is like Reddit.

                  One thing I absolutely adore about PieFed is the focus on democratization of moderation: by putting the power to choose your own experience into the hands of the users, you reduce the burden of moderation, e.g. the reason that Lemm.ee is shutting down. For example a new user account that joined less than two weeks ago gets an icon next to the username, and accounts that post 10x more often than comment (unregistered bot?), and people who receive 10x more downvotes than upvotes (troll?), so at a glance you can get more of a feel what you are up against before or as you reply to someone.

                  I dislike how Lemmy is somehow more authoritian than Reddit itself: yes there is a modlog but no modmail, no notification sent about a moderation event, no ability to ask questions why, nor even acknowledgment as to which mod did the action so that you can tag them (without having to put the full list of mods) elsewhere. Moreover, I do not expect this to ever change, not in five years nor ten, and in fact this aspect of Lemmy has actually gotten worse over time - Lemmy after all was founded by the tankies who were kicked off of Reddit for being too toxic, then decided to make their own Reddit, with blackjack and hookers:-). Which they did, and kudos, and it's absolutely great to see... but tankies are well known for their authoritarianism, see e.g. admin practices on Lemmy.ml.

                  PieFed is already doing things that Reddit had not. The goal of Reddit was to increase shareholder profits, not improve end user experience. PieFed is the second non-tankie implementation of a true Reddit alternative, after Kbin/Mbin, but PieFed is under very active development and in many ways has already surpassed Lemmy. See it for yourself - e.g. every cross-post has all the comments combined across all of the cross-postings, and the categories of communities (user customizable and shareable btw) are adorable.

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                  This is the flagship instance of PieFed, an open source project for the fediverse. Also try another server.

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                  Mobile app

                  Example cross-post showing all comments across all posts

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                  • blaze@piefed.socialB blaze@piefed.social

                    FYI, not sure why, but this comment was taggued in Portuguese for some reason: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45867045/19183694

                    Also, isn't Interstellar now fully supporting Piefed? https://piefed.social/post/817564

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                    bagofheavystones@piefed.social
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                    They say that, but it shows the wrong profile name for me, and on a post with 120+ comments it only shows me five. In time they'll get there, although I kinda hope Voyager adopts it since I'm more used to that as an ex RiF refugee.

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                    • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

                      They say that, but it shows the wrong profile name for me, and on a post with 120+ comments it only shows me five. In time they'll get there, although I kinda hope Voyager adopts it since I'm more used to that as an ex RiF refugee.

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                      I see, thanks. Yes, let's hope so, now that the API is on apps can consider working on compatibility

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                      • H hello@retrolemmy.com

                        I cant comment when using interstellar though

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                        blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        @jwr1@kbin.earth , where is the best place to submit bug reports?

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                        • H hello@retrolemmy.com

                          I cant comment when using interstellar though

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                          blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          #15

                          Seems like it works now? https://piefed.social/post/817564#comment_6419883

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                          • H hello@retrolemmy.com

                            I cant comment when using interstellar though

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                            Commenting should be working.

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                            • bagofheavystones@piefed.socialB bagofheavystones@piefed.social

                              They say that, but it shows the wrong profile name for me, and on a post with 120+ comments it only shows me five. In time they'll get there, although I kinda hope Voyager adopts it since I'm more used to that as an ex RiF refugee.

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                              shows the wrong profile name for me

                              What do mean by wrong profile name? You went into your account overview and it showed a different username from the one you were signed in to?

                              post with 120+ comments it only shows me five

                              I'm looking into this as we speak.


                              Please bear with us, as the PieFed API has literally just been enabled mainstream. The only PieFed user base we've had up until now was in a testing environment.

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                              • jwr1@kbin.earthJ jwr1@kbin.earth

                                Commenting should be working.

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                                hello@retrolemmy.com
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                                It does indeed, see ya around on my piefed account maybe!

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                                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  Seems like it works now? https://piefed.social/post/817564#comment_6419883

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                                  hello@retrolemmy.com
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                                  Sure does

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                                    nichtsowichtig@feddit.org
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                                    I'm actually tempted to try piefed.

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                                    • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                                      PieFed is like Lemmy in the same way that Lemmy is like Reddit.

                                      One thing I absolutely adore about PieFed is the focus on democratization of moderation: by putting the power to choose your own experience into the hands of the users, you reduce the burden of moderation, e.g. the reason that Lemm.ee is shutting down. For example a new user account that joined less than two weeks ago gets an icon next to the username, and accounts that post 10x more often than comment (unregistered bot?), and people who receive 10x more downvotes than upvotes (troll?), so at a glance you can get more of a feel what you are up against before or as you reply to someone.

                                      I dislike how Lemmy is somehow more authoritian than Reddit itself: yes there is a modlog but no modmail, no notification sent about a moderation event, no ability to ask questions why, nor even acknowledgment as to which mod did the action so that you can tag them (without having to put the full list of mods) elsewhere. Moreover, I do not expect this to ever change, not in five years nor ten, and in fact this aspect of Lemmy has actually gotten worse over time - Lemmy after all was founded by the tankies who were kicked off of Reddit for being too toxic, then decided to make their own Reddit, with blackjack and hookers:-). Which they did, and kudos, and it's absolutely great to see... but tankies are well known for their authoritarianism, see e.g. admin practices on Lemmy.ml.

                                      PieFed is already doing things that Reddit had not. The goal of Reddit was to increase shareholder profits, not improve end user experience. PieFed is the second non-tankie implementation of a true Reddit alternative, after Kbin/Mbin, but PieFed is under very active development and in many ways has already surpassed Lemmy. See it for yourself - e.g. every cross-post has all the comments combined across all of the cross-postings, and the categories of communities (user customizable and shareable btw) are adorable.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      PieFed - Explore Anything, Discuss Everything.

                                      This is the flagship instance of PieFed, an open source project for the fediverse. Also try another server.

                                      favicon

                                      (piefed.social)

                                      Mobile app

                                      Example cross-post showing all comments across all posts

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                                      flihpflorp@lemm.ee
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                                      Ooh u might check it out then

                                      I really like about lemm.ee in the admins block illegal and spam instances then I’m free to block NSFW and bots myself. As for moderation stuff yeah I remember a whole controversy over people not wanting to donate to lemmy admins but also not wanting to fund their political views. As for the comments that sounds awesome, I like to lurk and browse comments that aggregation sounds awesome. Also completly forgot about mbin might check them out

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                                        flihpflorp@lemm.ee
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                                        Yeah I know lemmy, piefed, and mbin are all seperate, app, software, techno beeple boops, whatever.. that they’re all different thing but communicate with each other. De duplication sounds really nice, and as a comment section lurker the aggregation of cross posts like another comment and you said sounds really nice. All the QoL stuff sounds pretty neato.

                                        One thing I did say in my other comment is I like lemm.ee admins federation policy of block the spam and illegal instances and letting me block NSFW and bots

                                        I also remember hearing about the Mbin version when the Kbin dev fell off the face of the earth and meaning to check it out (I’m sure you can guess how that went) mind telling me about that. Again like piefed all ik is it’s a separate platform that can view lemmy content

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                                        • blaze@piefed.socialB blaze@piefed.social

                                          FYI, not sure why, but this comment was taggued in Portuguese for some reason: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45867045/19183694

                                          Also, isn't Interstellar now fully supporting Piefed? https://piefed.social/post/817564

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                                          Piefed has also listed my language settings to Portuguese.

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