You look a bit skinny, son.
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Quality over quantity.
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It feels like that.. the timeline reflects the vibe
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That moderator left the platform since then
Ah yeah your name is familiar - i think i saw a postmortem post you made about it. Small fediverse
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This doesn't seem to be hoping for unlimited growth but rather that is has stagnated and is even falling. That can kill a community especially when it is as small as it is
I agree except it feels like people are way more active here than on reddit, me personally I never commented but I comment all the time on here. Lemmy feels really active even without a ton of users (especially discussion threads)
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[Pretending Fedidb/Fediobserver data or account #s accurately represents valuable conversations between real people when I just blocked 6 accounts by the same guy in the last 15 minutes for fun voice] Considering everyone is making a constant attempt to drive others away and be a pedantic freak, should this surprise anyone? The people who came here because they want more reddit, or to be admins of a subreddit, are not very good people, folks, they're not sending their best
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Quality over quantity.
Must not be that. I’m still here.
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Reddit used fake accounts from the beginning.
If we want a real space it’s going to feel “dead” compared to that anyways.
So yea, I agree.
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I'm not a programmer so I can't speak to how hard this is, but I think it would be a big asset to building user base if there was a neutral sign up website that wasn't a specific instance. It would basically choose an instance for you automatically and skip that part. I figure there could be some list of general purpose instances compiled that are all fair game and the site would try to spread the load across instances.
Average user doesn't care about federation, and all of that complexity is a big turn off. I know because I almost didn't sign up myself because of that. Having to pick a team just to get in the door feels kinda bad.
You have a point but maybe the gatekeeping is a good thing?
Average user doesn’t care about federation would translate to the average user doesn’t care about this community. Maybe?
It’s like how some old forums would charge for an account. Kept a certain low effort person from signing up. Sure it might turn people off but if you do enough work to understand how to get in then there’s a level of buying into it that might make you care more.
Just some thoughts.
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There is a slow decline though. I don't want exponential growth, but growth is important imo at this stage
The big answer to that is creating value on the site itself, no?
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People have started using Piefed insted of Lemmy, but I'm not sure we should throw away hope for the fediverse because of that.
PieFed and Mbin are both different implementations of the ActivityPub Protocol just like Lemmy. Although I doubt this graph includes either of them, despite how many left Lemmy for Piefed when Lemm.ee went down.
I looked and PieFed adds another ~1600 monthly active users and Mbin a further ~700 to the mix. PieFed starts out its chart with single digit user counts and ends with three orders of magnitude growth, so definitely not flat at all, though stable over the last few months.
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The big answer to that is creating value on the site itself, no?
That always helps, but you can hardly advertise services like this outside of here.
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I agree except it feels like people are way more active here than on reddit, me personally I never commented but I comment all the time on here. Lemmy feels really active even without a ton of users (especially discussion threads)
That said, it is unfortunate that this only applies to very general spaces or some specific communities. If your interest is even a little too niche, the dedicated communities often feel like a graveyard unfortunately.
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Does this include users of other platforms like Piefed?
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I checked mine. I just got banned on .ml. Huh.
Only from one comm.
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Only from one comm.
True, but I think it's more due to it being .ml than that specific community tbh
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You have a point but maybe the gatekeeping is a good thing?
Average user doesn’t care about federation would translate to the average user doesn’t care about this community. Maybe?
It’s like how some old forums would charge for an account. Kept a certain low effort person from signing up. Sure it might turn people off but if you do enough work to understand how to get in then there’s a level of buying into it that might make you care more.
Just some thoughts.
I would love to have more diversity here, so I'm afraid I don't agree with that.
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This is actually pretty good user retention. Most platforms bleed way more users after a surge in sign ups (eg Mastodon, Pixelfed, Threads, Bluesky).
they most likely went back to the original platforms they came on, reddit, X,tiktok.
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This doesn't seem to be hoping for unlimited growth but rather that is has stagnated and is even falling. That can kill a community especially when it is as small as it is
probably went back the mainstream ones like reddit, and the others, assuming you wernt banned in any of those platforms permananetly.
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I agree except it feels like people are way more active here than on reddit, me personally I never commented but I comment all the time on here. Lemmy feels really active even without a ton of users (especially discussion threads)
its probably due to self-censorship because subs, and reddit is ready to ban you at the moments notice for saying something they think its violating the rules(misconstruing) and not do actually violating by being vitrolitic, or bigotic. you have to be careful what you say on reddit.
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Anecdotally, it doesn't feel like the experience is contracting, or part of a shrinking community. It's worth asking what the data means, and whether it's bad, but there are definitely other reasonable factors too. Users from interoperable platforms like mastodon and piefed, individual people using fewer accounts, or even fewer lurkers, could be responsible for a good chunk of the data.
it kinda shrank after lemmy.ee went down, because they moved scattered to piefed,,,etc. and also blocking people too.
