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  • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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    stoy@lemmy.zip
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    Meh, block and move on, I use Discord to game with friends, we have used a Mumble server in the past, but Discord was just easier and had a better chat.

    Though I will absolutely admit that I am missing the sound quality of Mumble

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      Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.

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      • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

        I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.

        It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.

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        deusumbra@lemmy.world
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        I deleted my Facebook account when they said they were going to stop fact checking. I just made a post telling anyone who wanted to stay in touch to text me, gave them a week, then deleted the account. I've also been more politically active since leaving Facebook than I ever was before, as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups.

        I'm not going to say you have to delete Facebook or anything, but like, this sounds more like excuses than anything else to me. I have friends who still have Facebook who only keep it purely because they originally signed up for various apps and shit using their facebook account, and so they don't want to lose access to those things if they delete the Facebook account, and they are honest about it. I don't see them going around telling people like me that it is unreasonable to delete your Facebook account.

        Also, it is 100% a personal decision to not use social media. You do not Need to be on social media. You don't need to be here, or on Instagram, or Bluesky, or anywhere else. You Do need real life connections and interactions. If you don't want to give up Facebook, fine, but don't act like it is an impossibility to make that choice, just don't make excuses man.

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          deusumbra@lemmy.world
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          I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.

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          • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

            I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.

            It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.

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            If Facebook is so central to your life... Not sure what to tell you. I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump and it's the biggest favor they did me. So glad to be away from that garbage fire.

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            • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

              I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.

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              xylight@lemdro.id
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              FOSS = Free and Open Source Software. Open source means the source code of a program is available for anyone to view, and free (as in freedom) means the community can contribute to it (this is an oversimplification). FOSS software, like Lemmy, is not owned by a company and as such the software is (usually) developed for the benefit of everything rather than for maximum profit.

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              • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                I deleted my Facebook account when they said they were going to stop fact checking. I just made a post telling anyone who wanted to stay in touch to text me, gave them a week, then deleted the account. I've also been more politically active since leaving Facebook than I ever was before, as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups.

                I'm not going to say you have to delete Facebook or anything, but like, this sounds more like excuses than anything else to me. I have friends who still have Facebook who only keep it purely because they originally signed up for various apps and shit using their facebook account, and so they don't want to lose access to those things if they delete the Facebook account, and they are honest about it. I don't see them going around telling people like me that it is unreasonable to delete your Facebook account.

                Also, it is 100% a personal decision to not use social media. You do not Need to be on social media. You don't need to be here, or on Instagram, or Bluesky, or anywhere else. You Do need real life connections and interactions. If you don't want to give up Facebook, fine, but don't act like it is an impossibility to make that choice, just don't make excuses man.

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                trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                Yeah I found it weird to read that the thing I gave up and feel better for being rid of is not possible to give up 😕

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                • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                  I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.

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                  trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                  Free open source software

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                  • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                    I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.

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                    basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    The future! (for nerds only)

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                    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

                      I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.

                      It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.

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                      basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #19

                      Obviously a personal choice, so noone should be giving you shit about it, but I moved all the people I want to talk to onto Deltachat/Signal/SMS (in order of my preference), that works perfectly fine and I havn't found someone who is opposed to all of those options.

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                      • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.

                        If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.

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                        aria@lemmygrad.ml
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                        The principle of copyleft is that you can't encourage a free environment without some level of militantism. If you accept user hostile software like Steam alongside copyleft applications, then you're fighting on the side of that hostility, on the side of theft and oppression.

                        Many newer popular FOSS softwares advocates stronger for libertarianism than collective protection, but it's the strictly libre software that has been the backbone historically.

                        Users benefit from software, not from other users. Non-FOSS software already exists, and would exist without libre initiatives.

                        Do you think more users, even if apolitical or incidental will best increase the amount of quality FOSS software being written in the long run, or a smaller but principled and politically motivated user base? Will no-strings free-to-use softwares encourage more new FOSS software or a treasure trove of existing quality libraries that can only be used if you agree to stop oppressing the user?

                        If we use Valve as a case-study, then they have taken freely available software and created a product out of it. They have contributed back to that software, and because of their contribution Windows-emulation is now better for FOSS users. But they haven't made any of their previous products less oppressive. They created a Linux-product to escape Microsoft's power over them, and their business is charging rent from all game developers. Compared to almost anyone else, they have very little to loose by making their products user respecting and FOSS. They didn't chose to do this. Would they have had, if the work they appropriated to create the Steamdeck software had even more militant terms of use?

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                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                          I have had lots of meme ideas, some even made it into production, before ultimately deciding to shelve it because it was on a topic that wouldn't have been very welcome.

                          Like a meme on Amazon being late yet again (if I were to order from Amazon, not saying I do! 😅) or something. Or a meme on how sometimes I use AI and it's actually helpful (Again, not saying I do! 😅(I want my threadilawyer)) LMAO

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                          Dbzer0 is pro ai

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                          • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                            Yeah I found it weird to read that the thing I gave up and feel better for being rid of is not possible to give up 😕

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                            that isn't what Zagorath said though

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                              It is not really open source without an open transparent mod log. Anyone that needs to hide their actions should never be a mod, admin, or dev

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                              • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                                If Facebook is so central to your life... Not sure what to tell you. I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump and it's the biggest favor they did me. So glad to be away from that garbage fire.

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                                Facebook is central to my life. I use it because that’s where local support groups for the disease I have are. I need this location-specific information to keep up to date on disability benefits and so on. Not everything is about politics.

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                                • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                                  I deleted my Facebook account when they said they were going to stop fact checking. I just made a post telling anyone who wanted to stay in touch to text me, gave them a week, then deleted the account. I've also been more politically active since leaving Facebook than I ever was before, as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups.

                                  I'm not going to say you have to delete Facebook or anything, but like, this sounds more like excuses than anything else to me. I have friends who still have Facebook who only keep it purely because they originally signed up for various apps and shit using their facebook account, and so they don't want to lose access to those things if they delete the Facebook account, and they are honest about it. I don't see them going around telling people like me that it is unreasonable to delete your Facebook account.

                                  Also, it is 100% a personal decision to not use social media. You do not Need to be on social media. You don't need to be here, or on Instagram, or Bluesky, or anywhere else. You Do need real life connections and interactions. If you don't want to give up Facebook, fine, but don't act like it is an impossibility to make that choice, just don't make excuses man.

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                                  as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups

                                  Ok. I don't know where you are, but that's definitely not the case here. It's literally all done through Facebook Groups and Events.

                                  Same for sporting and social clubs. If you're not on Facebook, you're not getting updates.

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                                  • basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.comB basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    Obviously a personal choice, so noone should be giving you shit about it, but I moved all the people I want to talk to onto Deltachat/Signal/SMS (in order of my preference), that works perfectly fine and I havn't found someone who is opposed to all of those options.

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                                    Moving your 1-on-1 chats is one thing. Moving political organising, sports clubs, social clubs, and your various group chats is something very different.

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                                    • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                                      If Facebook is so central to your life... Not sure what to tell you. I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump and it's the biggest favor they did me. So glad to be away from that garbage fire.

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                                      I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump

                                      See, I don't post posts to my Facebook wall. Haven't done in years. I use the Groups, Events, and Messenger, because that's where people already are. Responding to a person with "Why are you using Facebook?" and, when called out on how shitty and judgmental you're being, doubling down on your own (in the general sense, not you specifically, Dacy) shitty behaviour by saying you should avoid it "because they’re using a website that is complicit in making the world a lot worse? not sure how this is a strange concept on lemmy" is just ignorant of how people interact with other people.

                                      It's the same shitty judgmental attitude that the OP was calling out in this post.

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                                      • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.

                                        If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.

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                                        IMO that's the very reason why the FSF failed to gain significant traction over the years. Using a 100% libre device is HARD, even if you really want to. But yeah, gatekeeping is never gonna be helpful to push people towards better habits...

                                        However, I would politely disagree with the "best tool for the job" argument. I believe that FLOSS software is an inherent quality, and that some degree of trade-off is acceptable, and even needed if we want to further promote it.
                                        Like, is Darktable worst than Lightroom? Sure, but it's an awesome piece of software with minimal trade-offs for most people, so I think it's still meaningful to promote it above a potentially better software for the job, feature-wise but that requires to give up all freedom to Adobe.

                                        Eventually that limit of acceptable trade-off is matter of personal choice, and again, it sound silly to gate-keep people on the Fediverse for that...

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                                          you butchered the hell out of that format

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