I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.

If Facebook is so central to your life... Not sure what to tell you. I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump and it's the biggest favor they did me. So glad to be away from that garbage fire.

FOSS = Free and Open Source Software. Open source means the source code of a program is available for anyone to view, and free (as in freedom) means the community can contribute to it (this is an oversimplification). FOSS software, like Lemmy, is not owned by a company and as such the software is (usually) developed for the benefit of everything rather than for maximum profit.

Yeah I found it weird to read that the thing I gave up and feel better for being rid of is not possible to give up

Free open source software

The future! (for nerds only)

Obviously a personal choice, so noone should be giving you shit about it, but I moved all the people I want to talk to onto Deltachat/Signal/SMS (in order of my preference), that works perfectly fine and I havn't found someone who is opposed to all of those options.

The principle of copyleft is that you can't encourage a free environment without some level of militantism. If you accept user hostile software like Steam alongside copyleft applications, then you're fighting on the side of that hostility, on the side of theft and oppression.

Many newer popular FOSS softwares advocates stronger for libertarianism than collective protection, but it's the strictly libre software that has been the backbone historically.

Users benefit from software, not from other users. Non-FOSS software already exists, and would exist without libre initiatives.

Do you think more users, even if apolitical or incidental will best increase the amount of quality FOSS software being written in the long run, or a smaller but principled and politically motivated user base? Will no-strings free-to-use softwares encourage more new FOSS software or a treasure trove of existing quality libraries that can only be used if you agree to stop oppressing the user?

If we use Valve as a case-study, then they have taken freely available software and created a product out of it. They have contributed back to that software, and because of their contribution Windows-emulation is now better for FOSS users. But they haven't made any of their previous products less oppressive. They created a Linux-product to escape Microsoft's power over them, and their business is charging rent from all game developers. Compared to almost anyone else, they have very little to loose by making their products user respecting and FOSS. They didn't chose to do this. Would they have had, if the work they appropriated to create the Steamdeck software had even more militant terms of use?

Dbzer0 is pro ai

that isn't what Zagorath said though

It is not really open source without an open transparent mod log. Anyone that needs to hide their actions should never be a mod, admin, or dev

Facebook is central to my life. I use it because that’s where local support groups for the disease I have are. I need this location-specific information to keep up to date on disability benefits and so on. Not everything is about politics.

as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups

Ok. I don't know where you are, but that's definitely not the case here. It's literally all done through Facebook Groups and Events.

Same for sporting and social clubs. If you're not on Facebook, you're not getting updates.

Moving your 1-on-1 chats is one thing. Moving political organising, sports clubs, social clubs, and your various group chats is something very different.

I got banned from FB for posting that fake nude of trump

See, I don't post posts to my Facebook wall. Haven't done in years. I use the Groups, Events, and Messenger, because that's where people already are. Responding to a person with "Why are you using Facebook?" and, when called out on how shitty and judgmental you're being, doubling down on your own (in the general sense, not you specifically, Dacy) shitty behaviour by saying you should avoid it "because they’re using a website that is complicit in making the world a lot worse? not sure how this is a strange concept on lemmy" is just ignorant of how people interact with other people.

It's the same shitty judgmental attitude that the OP was calling out in this post.

IMO that's the very reason why the FSF failed to gain significant traction over the years. Using a 100% libre device is HARD, even if you really want to. But yeah, gatekeeping is never gonna be helpful to push people towards better habits...

However, I would politely disagree with the "best tool for the job" argument. I believe that FLOSS software is an inherent quality, and that some degree of trade-off is acceptable, and even needed if we want to further promote it.
Like, is Darktable worst than Lightroom? Sure, but it's an awesome piece of software with minimal trade-offs for most people, so I think it's still meaningful to promote it above a potentially better software for the job, feature-wise but that requires to give up all freedom to Adobe.

Eventually that limit of acceptable trade-off is matter of personal choice, and again, it sound silly to gate-keep people on the Fediverse for that...

you butchered the hell out of that format

Same why I'm still on Reddit. I'm definitely not getting people who struggle with the same illness that causes fatigue and brain fog to spend more energy they don't have on switching to another platform that doesn't even come up when you type it into a search engine to seek support from other people affected by the illness. It's easy to say "don't use this, don't use that", if all they use these platforms for is for memes and messenger.

I had to create an account and use Facebook in my support job days, because that's where everyone was posting shift exchange requests. An entire department won't just switch to Signal for this just because the new person refuses to use anything not FOSS.

Same witht cars. I prefer not to use my car, and I'm happy that in my day-to-day life I can just walk, cycle or use public transit. But if I'm visiting my parents in the countryside of another country, I'm sure not spending—checks notes—9 hours on train with multiple connections instead of just under 2 by driving the car.

Do what you can to avoid using all these, but don't go to the extremes where you're not getting the info you need or getting to places you need to be. Should the the message.

There is being a dick about facts people don't want to hear and there's better deliveries. I can't disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse. But I'm trying to be less of a dick about it. I try not to be one of those extremists.

One of the problems with Facebook is also present on Lemmy, which is where people dehumanize each other and act like total extremist dicks. At least on Lemmy, it's not generally going to pay dickheads who profit from that or for genocide or other suffering.

It's a complicated world out there but some facts aren't complicated and that increases the likelihood of people being blunt extremist dicks about those facts. Sucks but that's just how it is

That sounds like a defensible use of it.