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How Much Each Project Gets Monthly in USD

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  • H hakase@lemmy.zip

    I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.

    But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.

    The ball's in their court.

    Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.

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    m532@lemmygrad.ml
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    Wouldn't that be bribery?

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    • H hakase@lemmy.zip

      I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.

      But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.

      The ball's in their court.

      Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.

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      skavau@piefed.social
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      #38

      Well if you do want to throw donation money anywhere, there is always Piefed now.

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      • sunshine@lemmy.caS sunshine@lemmy.ca

        Donate to Piefed

        Donate to Lemmy

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        iamnorrealtakeyourmeds@lemmy.world
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        #39

        can we say that it is insanely cheap?

        for an online platform competing with the big social media companies a total of less than 500 per month is nothing.

        want to know the cost per active user per month and compare when Reddit and Facebook overhead.

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        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

          If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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          skavau@piefed.social
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          #40

          Ignoring the "fascist" criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.

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          • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

            Now calculate the donations per active user and the difference becomes very small.

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            kierunkowy74@piefed.social
            wrote last edited by kierunkowy74@piefed.social
            #41

            41425 MAU/$4250.39 = 9.74.../$1

            1629 MAU/$60.86 = 26,76.../$1

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            • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

              If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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              lemminary@lemmy.world
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              #42

              First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.

              https://lemmy.world/post/32825174
              https://lemmy.world/post/32776038
              https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
              https://lemmy.world/post/32425984

              And here's your other admin, Davel

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              A .ml admins' (davel) response to a valid report of "NK is actually good" propaganda/misinfo - Lemmy.World

              Memes can be a vector of propaganda/misinformation thatโ€™s just as dangerous Join the lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml] instance! And consider donating to individual instances instead

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              Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.

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              • S skavau@piefed.social

                Ignoring the "fascist" criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.

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                nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                #43

                I'm glad that you are amused.

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                • takapapatapaka@lemmy.worldT takapapatapaka@lemmy.world

                  I mean, it's equivalent to the minimum salary i guess. I think they're european, and in france the minimum salary is around 1800โ‚ฌ before taxes. That's not a lot in the absolute, but in the foss world, it is quite comfortable.

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                  nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                  #44

                  It's definitely wrong to say we're poor, no idea where people got that idea. Yet the amount of money we get is very little for a Lead Developer. It also doesn't allow us to pay any additional developers.

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                  • H hakase@lemmy.zip

                    I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.

                    But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.

                    The ball's in their court.

                    Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.

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                    nutomic@lemmy.ml
                    wrote last edited by
                    #45

                    First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                    • L lemminary@lemmy.world

                      First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.

                      https://lemmy.world/post/32825174
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32776038
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32425984

                      And here's your other admin, Davel

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                      A .ml admins' (davel) response to a valid report of "NK is actually good" propaganda/misinfo - Lemmy.World

                      Memes can be a vector of propaganda/misinformation thatโ€™s just as dangerous Join the lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml] instance! And consider donating to individual instances instead

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                      Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.

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                      nutomic@lemmy.ml
                      wrote last edited by
                      #46

                      First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                      • I iamnorrealtakeyourmeds@lemmy.world

                        can we say that it is insanely cheap?

                        for an online platform competing with the big social media companies a total of less than 500 per month is nothing.

                        want to know the cost per active user per month and compare when Reddit and Facebook overhead.

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                        unpledgedcatnaptipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        #47

                        That's specifically development funding. The hosting cost/funding is separate on an instance by instance basis, most likely the majority of funding comes from whoever owns/operates the instance.

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                        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                          If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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                          maeve@kbin.earth
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                          #48

                          It's written, so it's libel in the USA. Not sure where you are or if it's different.

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                          • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                            First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                            lemminary@lemmy.world
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                            #49

                            Are you trying to pull a Regina George, or...? I think it's pretty clear why people abhor your instance when everyone's getting a piece of it from the very admins.

                            Anyway, we're not talking about that. You said it was slander, and there you have it, it turns out it's not.

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                            • I iamnorrealtakeyourmeds@lemmy.world

                              can we say that it is insanely cheap?

                              for an online platform competing with the big social media companies a total of less than 500 per month is nothing.

                              want to know the cost per active user per month and compare when Reddit and Facebook overhead.

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                              potatoesfall@discuss.tchncs.de
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                              you're forgetting about hosting, administration, and moderation! Don't forget to donate to your instance folks

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                              • O osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml

                                I mean you can always find an excuse not to donate

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                                socsa@piefed.social
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                                #51

                                There are other projects. Lemmy isn't the only activity pub app.

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                                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                  First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                                  socsa@piefed.social
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                                  #52

                                  I don't know what other people said. My problem has always been that the donations pay for Dessalines to be everything he claims to hate about reddit.

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                                  • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                    First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                                    hakase@lemmy.zip
                                    wrote last edited by hakase@lemmy.zip
                                    #53

                                    Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I'd do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee "Lemmy needs more donations" thread so I can't access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.

                                    Being this disingenuous isn't winning you any points.

                                    Edit: Hell, I'm the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.

                                    I'm practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won't let me.

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                                    • H hakase@lemmy.zip

                                      No money for tankie devs!

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                                      potatoesfall@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                      #54

                                      Look man I rlly don't like the tankies but I still think its okay for a couple hardworking devs to get by. They're not getting rich from this.

                                      People keep acting like these people need to be boycotted as if they were Jeff Bezos or something. It's just some devs working on this shit out of the good in their heart.

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                                      • brunbrun6766@lemmy.worldB brunbrun6766@lemmy.world

                                        Yet the .ml stans say Desselines lives in abject poverty and "does this out of the goodness of his own heart". Suuuure.

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                                        potatoesfall@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                        #55

                                        where do you live that 4k between multiple people is considered wealthy

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                                        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                          First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                                          socsa@piefed.social
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                                          #56

                                          Dessalines: is an asshole to people.

                                          People: "We don't like you."

                                          What part of this is confusing to you? Dude literally won't post off .ml because he can't handle any push back or criticism without having the banhammer ready.

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