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The Instances That Prefer XMPP Over Matrix For Decentralized Private Chatting

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  • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca

    Do admins of XMPP rooms have to update their groups separately from the homeserver?

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    Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you are referring to Matrix like room versions then that entire concept doesn't exist in XMPP (which prevents a lot of problems).

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    • povoq@slrpnk.netP povoq@slrpnk.net

      Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you are referring to Matrix like room versions then that entire concept doesn't exist in XMPP (which prevents a lot of problems).

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      #8

      That sounds nice, so do all the rooms get updated alongside the homeserver?

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      • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca

        That sounds nice, so do all the rooms get updated alongside the homeserver?

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        Well, "yes". But there isn't really such a thing as updating a room. In xmpp, rooms follow a standard and communicate additional optional capabilities to clients.

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        • T turret3857@infosec.pub

          My main issue with XMPP at this time is there isn't a client I like. The one I see most recommended is one that looks almost exactly like element IMO. I would want something that looks similar to Mattermost/Cinny/Slack, but as far as I can tell it does not exist. I'd love to use XMPP, but the projects I follow are mostly on Matrix (and discord :/) and there isn't an appealing client for me, so I really can't justify using it.

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          #10

          Which XMPP client looks like Element?

          I think https://prose.org/ is quite Slack like, but it is still missing some features since it is quite new.

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          • povoq@slrpnk.netP povoq@slrpnk.net

            Which XMPP client looks like Element?

            I think https://prose.org/ is quite Slack like, but it is still missing some features since it is quite new.

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            turret3857@infosec.pub
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            Gajim

            Prose looks really cool, I'm going to have to try it out. It never came up when I was looking a few weeks back 😛

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            • T turret3857@infosec.pub

              Gajim

              Prose looks really cool, I'm going to have to try it out. It never came up when I was looking a few weeks back 😛

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              #12

              I find that it looks more like Discord, but sure, Element also copied a lot of stuff from Discord.

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              • povoq@slrpnk.netP povoq@slrpnk.net

                I find that it looks more like Discord, but sure, Element also copied a lot of stuff from Discord.

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                turret3857@infosec.pub
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                #13

                Gajim
                Screenshot of Gajim for XMPP

                Element
                Screenshot of Element for Matrix

                Discord
                Screenshot of Discord

                I honestly feel like if you swapped the Gajim and the Element screenshot I wouldn't even notice. Discord's layout is a bit different even if not by enough that some people wouldn't realize it

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                • T turret3857@infosec.pub

                  Gajim
                  Screenshot of Gajim for XMPP

                  Element
                  Screenshot of Element for Matrix

                  Discord
                  Screenshot of Discord

                  I honestly feel like if you swapped the Gajim and the Element screenshot I wouldn't even notice. Discord's layout is a bit different even if not by enough that some people wouldn't realize it

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                  #14

                  Switch Gajim to dark mode and close that thread view in Discord and it looks almost the same.

                  But yes there is a lot of UI copying, but Discord is clearly the main inspiration for both.

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                  • T turret3857@infosec.pub

                    Gajim
                    Screenshot of Gajim for XMPP

                    Element
                    Screenshot of Element for Matrix

                    Discord
                    Screenshot of Discord

                    I honestly feel like if you swapped the Gajim and the Element screenshot I wouldn't even notice. Discord's layout is a bit different even if not by enough that some people wouldn't realize it

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                    #15

                    Thanks for the screenshots!

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                    • povoq@slrpnk.netP povoq@slrpnk.net

                      Which XMPP client looks like Element?

                      I think https://prose.org/ is quite Slack like, but it is still missing some features since it is quite new.

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                      #16

                      I tried adding an avatar using Monal but it didn’t work 😭

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