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  • M megane_kun@lemmy.zip

    To me, it's mostly how an instance is ran. How it makes its decisions: defederating or not, and with whom, how they handle complaints, how they handle bans, etc. makes a difference in both the communities it hosts and its members.

    There's also the matter of user culture. Some instances, like Beehaw, Lemmygrad, and Hexbear are known for a certain user culture. Some users might steer clear away from certain instances because of that perceived user culture.

    And then there's the issue of defederation stance. It might not be readily apparent, or affect your user experience in a big way, but for some users, it's a factor. This is also where lemm.ee made its mark. It basically used defederation as a last resort, and some users were drawn to that.

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    lucidnightmare@lemm.ee
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    That's why I was here. I've already made a few more accounts just to have backups in case this happens again, but I really really enjoyed how I could see most of the Fediverse, and could block with my own settings if I didn't like the way another instance was ran. I will miss it. :'-]

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    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      digitalnuisance@infosec.pub
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      Lol, no it wasn't. It was the place where the lowest-common-denominator ended up. My experience on more niche, tailored servers has been wonderful for thoughtful discussion and avoiding useless flame wars.

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      • L ledericas@lemm.ee

        .ml is way more toxic than .world.

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        braininabox@lemmy.ml
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        .world is the most toxic by far

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        • alaskaball@hexbear.netA alaskaball@hexbear.net

          Personally I disagree. Now would be the time to go into posting overdrive and really let the instance go out with a real bang.

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          irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #74

          The main problem would be that all the images disappear with it.

          Of course, I could use an external host.

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          • P pyre@lemmy.world

            I'll be honest i don't get what people differentiate so much about instances. most of the time i don't even notice what instance people I'm talking to are from, what instance the community in browsing is from, what instance the meme I'm viewing is from... is it about the software you're using that you're so aware of these things?

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            irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            #75

            Different admins; some instances federate with some, some block others.

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            • quietcupcake@hexbear.netQ quietcupcake@hexbear.net

              Yeah, the instances that are most dedicated to fighting fascism and providing a safe space for lgbtqi+ and other marginalized groups are the "toxic" ones. Those are the instances that need to be contained so you can block them, huh? HMMMMMM....

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              railcar8095@lemm.ee
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              You manage to get the most lgbtq instance defederate you, in case you want you check the mirror before mmmmmmm the rest...

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              • R railcar8095@lemm.ee

                You manage to get the most lgbtq instance defederate you, in case you want you check the mirror before mmmmmmm the rest...

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                funkystuff@hexbear.net
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                #77

                What instance was that? And Hexbear is something like 80% or maybe even 90% LGBTQ, while not being explicitly an LGBTQ instance, so what exactly does it say about us when Western, still mostly white, mostly liberal instances defederate us? That we're suddenly queerphobic or that crackers be cracking?

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                • ? Guest

                  Thank you, not just for showing respect and appreciation to the people behind Lemm.ee but because these posts are a magnet for the kind of trolls everyone should block before migrating elsewhere. ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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                  ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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                  Hereโ€™s an entitled ass to add to your collection lol https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19001249

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                  • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    The main problem would be that all the images disappear with it.

                    Of course, I could use an external host.

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                    alaskaball@hexbear.net
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                    #79

                    There's the fun of it, it all goes poof like a dream. It's an opportunity for lemeeeee people to truly let down their hair and fully be their own quirky selves for one brief moment.

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                    • D digitalnuisance@infosec.pub

                      Lol, no it wasn't. It was the place where the lowest-common-denominator ended up. My experience on more niche, tailored servers has been wonderful for thoughtful discussion and avoiding useless flame wars.

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                      oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      #80

                      Thanks for saying this. We did see some hate coming from there whereas on more dedicated servers there's generally none of that.

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                      • G glaber@lemm.ee

                        Wherever you guys migrate, please stop concentrating the userbase around lemmy.world, that's exactly what we're trying to avoid with Lemmy to begin with. The best thing you can do is go to https://join-lemmy.org/ and choose a server that's not in the top 10 or so. This will also help avoid things like the admins/mods burning out

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                        softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                        .wolrd is the only instance I have been able to stay on so far.

                        Every smaller one I try bans me for minor disagreements or wrongthink. They all feel like exclusive clubs that they don't really want people to join, but will then whine about low user numbers.

                        The larger spaces have admins that are more often held accountable and put on blast, it's just the nature of these kinds of spaces.

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                        • funkystuff@hexbear.netF funkystuff@hexbear.net

                          What instance was that? And Hexbear is something like 80% or maybe even 90% LGBTQ, while not being explicitly an LGBTQ instance, so what exactly does it say about us when Western, still mostly white, mostly liberal instances defederate us? That we're suddenly queerphobic or that crackers be cracking?

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                          irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          I think they're talking about lemmy.blahaj.zone.

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                          • P pyre@lemmy.world

                            I'll be honest i don't get what people differentiate so much about instances. most of the time i don't even notice what instance people I'm talking to are from, what instance the community in browsing is from, what instance the meme I'm viewing is from... is it about the software you're using that you're so aware of these things?

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                            buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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                            Well, that is unless they are coming from .ml ๐Ÿ˜’

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                            • L lucidnightmare@lemm.ee

                              That's why I was here. I've already made a few more accounts just to have backups in case this happens again, but I really really enjoyed how I could see most of the Fediverse, and could block with my own settings if I didn't like the way another instance was ran. I will miss it. :'-]

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                              areasix@lemm.ee
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                              #84

                              I'm in the same boat. I do not like defederation. So where do we go? Any other instance with the same openness? I don't know details about instances, but I know I'd like to avoid .world though.

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                              • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                I think they're talking about lemmy.blahaj.zone.

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                                funkystuff@hexbear.net
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                                Yup, most likely. And it's very ironic that they point to that when we got defedded over their admin trying to watch out for the interests of a moderator who would end up switching to a different instance when Ada took the same stances on pronouns that Hexbear had taken years earlier.

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                                • A areasix@lemm.ee

                                  I'm in the same boat. I do not like defederation. So where do we go? Any other instance with the same openness? I don't know details about instances, but I know I'd like to avoid .world though.

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                                  lucidnightmare@lemm.ee
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                                  I honestly haven't put too much thought into it yet, but I joined sh.itjust.works and db0 because I've seen some of their users around and thought they were cool. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                                  • funkystuff@hexbear.netF funkystuff@hexbear.net

                                    Yup, most likely. And it's very ironic that they point to that when we got defedded over their admin trying to watch out for the interests of a moderator who would end up switching to a different instance when Ada took the same stances on pronouns that Hexbear had taken years earlier.

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                                    irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Assuming you're talking about moss (the admin, not the plant), she mentioned that they didn't try to leave because of anything due to neopronouns (and she mentioned this is the post).
                                    It was because of Ada moderating communities as well, and being (in her opinion), overbearing.

                                    FWIW, the migration was botched, and everyone's at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone now.

                                    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't hexbear also block LBZ? If so, why's that?

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                                    • G glaber@lemm.ee

                                      Wherever you guys migrate, please stop concentrating the userbase around lemmy.world, that's exactly what we're trying to avoid with Lemmy to begin with. The best thing you can do is go to https://join-lemmy.org/ and choose a server that's not in the top 10 or so. This will also help avoid things like the admins/mods burning out

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                                      flihpflorp@lemm.ee
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                                      Yeah I was gonna try out piefed and mbin but if those donโ€™t work out for me any lemmy instance suggestions? J was thinking lemmy.zip or any instance who only defederates with spam/illegal stuff

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                                      • P pyre@lemmy.world

                                        I'll be honest i don't get what people differentiate so much about instances. most of the time i don't even notice what instance people I'm talking to are from, what instance the community in browsing is from, what instance the meme I'm viewing is from... is it about the software you're using that you're so aware of these things?

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                                        pugjesus@lemmy.world
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                                        Community cultures, mostly, as trimmed and pruned by admins. Most instances I don't notice massive differences in, with a few exceptions.

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                                        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          Assuming you're talking about moss (the admin, not the plant), she mentioned that they didn't try to leave because of anything due to neopronouns (and she mentioned this is the post).
                                          It was because of Ada moderating communities as well, and being (in her opinion), overbearing.

                                          FWIW, the migration was botched, and everyone's at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone now.

                                          Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't hexbear also block LBZ? If so, why's that?

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                                          funkystuff@hexbear.net
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                                          It was because of Ada moderating communities as well, and being (in her opinion), overbearing.

                                          Wasn't all of that done when some of the cis members of the community were getting extremely angry at Ada for the new pronouns moderation? Like, sure, they stated it wasn't because of the new pronoun position, but it seems pretty clear that Ada embraced a position that was closer to the hardline pro-trans position of Hexbear and it pushed a ton of people away.

                                          And yeah, we have them defedded because of chasers in their 196 comm making our trans users feel unsafe.

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