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  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

    There is being a dick about facts people don't want to hear and there's better deliveries. I can't disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse. But I'm trying to be less of a dick about it. I try not to be one of those extremists.

    One of the problems with Facebook is also present on Lemmy, which is where people dehumanize each other and act like total extremist dicks. At least on Lemmy, it's not generally going to pay dickheads who profit from that or for genocide or other suffering.

    It's a complicated world out there but some facts aren't complicated and that increases the likelihood of people being blunt extremist dicks about those facts. Sucks but that's just how it is

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    I can’t disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse

    Neither can I. And I'll take any opportunity I can to try and persuade people to organise in other spaces and espouse the benefits of doing so. (Check my Reddit account: it's been mostly inactive since the API debacle, but literally every contribution it has made has been friendly nods towards Lemmy and Piefed.) What I would never do is belittle someone for using it, apropos of absolutely nothing at all.

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    • misk@piefed.socialM misk@piefed.social

      Have you seen anyone on Fedi saying „yeah, I need Facebook because otherwise where would I get my daily AI shrimp Jesus fix?”. Your mental health will improve when you stop assuming everyone you don’t like is evil.

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      .... Okay. You don't really understand anything about what I'm saying or my mental health

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      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

        I don't think I was condescending. It's possible you're just tired of hearing about this topic.

        And no, I cannot assume that at all. 99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

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        I don’t think I was condescending

        99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

        Uh huh.

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        • N nemo@slrpnk.net

          Having used Discord, it's hard to see how anything could be behind it in terms of functionality, since "using nothing" is literally an improvement over Discord.

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          skavau@piefed.social
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          #46

          If you want to make a comprehensive chatroom, and specify how it works to minor details - Revolt (for instance) is far behind. If what Discord is doesn't appeal to you in the first place, then neither would any of the Discord alternatives.

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          • sunshine@piefed.caS sunshine@piefed.ca
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            dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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            You should gatekeep Discord because it fucking sucks

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            • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

              I don’t think I was condescending

              99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

              Uh huh.

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              Sorry you're mad about the truth. Guess you're telling me you don't really have a defense. Because I certainly didn't say that

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                emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Why do people think they're entitled to some sort of validation for their poor software choices? No one is being banned or blocked just for not using linux or for using discord. People are free to disagree with your choices- thats not gatekeeping.

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                  why would you care what a few hundred nerds think at all?
                  the fediverse is big and diverse, find a place where people aren't weird about shit (or are your kind of weird)

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                    sure but like. if you moderate a comm here and wants a chatroom, please spare me from discord.

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                    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

                      as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups

                      Ok. I don't know where you are, but that's definitely not the case here. It's literally all done through Facebook Groups and Events.

                      Same for sporting and social clubs. If you're not on Facebook, you're not getting updates.

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                      deusumbra@lemmy.world
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                      America. I took part in the No Kings rally, among other events, and all of the information was communicated through email.

                      Also, sporting and social clubs? Ew.

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                      • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                        America. I took part in the No Kings rally, among other events, and all of the information was communicated through email.

                        Also, sporting and social clubs? Ew.

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                        Email might be a good way to alert the broader public about things that have been organised. But for the smaller-scale stuff? For organising what your group's response should be to begin with? That needs to happen either face-to-face (in which case the question becomes: how do you organise a time and place for that) or on real social media. Email just isn't really cut-out for that kind of task. It doesn't have to be corporate social media. Matrix chats or a Friendica group would be just as good in theory. But in practice I've never heard of that actually being done.

                        And just because you're apparently anti-social or whatever, doesn't mean everyone else is. "Ew." What is it the kids say? "Touch grass"?

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                        • S skavau@piefed.social

                          If you want to make a comprehensive chatroom, and specify how it works to minor details - Revolt (for instance) is far behind. If what Discord is doesn't appeal to you in the first place, then neither would any of the Discord alternatives.

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                          nemo@slrpnk.net
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                          Discord is supposed to be a chatroom? I thought it was a voice chat service for videogames that didn't have it built it.

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                          • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ zagorath@aussie.zone

                            I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.

                            It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.

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                            drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

                            Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.

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                            • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                              They said something akin to it's almost impossible to give up. But I have no intention to argue about it. My comment was more about how it read to me in the moment. I can't say exactly what they were thinking.

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                              it's actually really easy to know what they were thinking because they were very clear with their statement, you seem to have just misread it I guess. I'm glad you don't want to argue about it because I don't want to argue either!

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                              • N nemo@slrpnk.net

                                Discord is supposed to be a chatroom? I thought it was a voice chat service for videogames that didn't have it built it.

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                                skavau@piefed.social
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                                It has extensive text chat

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                                • D deusumbra@lemmy.world

                                  America. I took part in the No Kings rally, among other events, and all of the information was communicated through email.

                                  Also, sporting and social clubs? Ew.

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                                  erin@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                                  What's with the random dunking on social/sporting clubs? It's one of the few ways available for many people to enjoy their hobbies and make new friends. "Ew?" Are you serious?

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                                  • D drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally

                                    Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.

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                                    violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                                    based on the replies it's incomprehensible to some people right now 😂

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                                      I'll take "Things that don't happen" for $2, Alex.

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                                      • violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zoneV violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone

                                        based on the replies it's incomprehensible to some people right now 😂

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                                        swelter_spark@reddthat.com
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                                        I did it. There's plenty of other ways for people to get in touch with me.

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                                        • swelter_spark@reddthat.comS swelter_spark@reddthat.com

                                          I did it. There's plenty of other ways for people to get in touch with me.

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                                          violetsoftness@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                                          there's one right there!

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