When The Threadverse Catches You Using Discord
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you butchered the hell out of that format
Lol, actually rejected by the community.
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I don't think I was condescending. It's possible you're just tired of hearing about this topic.
And no, I cannot assume that at all. 99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more
Have you seen anyone on Fedi saying „yeah, I need Facebook because otherwise where would I get my daily AI shrimp Jesus fix?”. Your mental health will improve when you stop assuming everyone you don’t like is evil.
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I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.
If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.
Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.
I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.
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Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.
Well ummm.... normies ruin everything.
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no but fr. we need a better alternate than the matrix and XMPP protocol, theyre both too buggy. I use them but fuck its annoying sometimes
WTF do you mean XMPP is buggy ?? It's one if the most feature-complete things out there only beaten by IRC
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Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.
I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.
Having used Discord, it's hard to see how anything could be behind it in terms of functionality, since "using nothing" is literally an improvement over Discord.
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There is being a dick about facts people don't want to hear and there's better deliveries. I can't disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse. But I'm trying to be less of a dick about it. I try not to be one of those extremists.
One of the problems with Facebook is also present on Lemmy, which is where people dehumanize each other and act like total extremist dicks. At least on Lemmy, it's not generally going to pay dickheads who profit from that or for genocide or other suffering.
It's a complicated world out there but some facts aren't complicated and that increases the likelihood of people being blunt extremist dicks about those facts. Sucks but that's just how it is
I can’t disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse
Neither can I. And I'll take any opportunity I can to try and persuade people to organise in other spaces and espouse the benefits of doing so. (Check my Reddit account: it's been mostly inactive since the API debacle, but literally every contribution it has made has been friendly nods towards Lemmy and Piefed.) What I would never do is belittle someone for using it, apropos of absolutely nothing at all.
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Have you seen anyone on Fedi saying „yeah, I need Facebook because otherwise where would I get my daily AI shrimp Jesus fix?”. Your mental health will improve when you stop assuming everyone you don’t like is evil.
.... Okay. You don't really understand anything about what I'm saying or my mental health
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I don't think I was condescending. It's possible you're just tired of hearing about this topic.
And no, I cannot assume that at all. 99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more
I don’t think I was condescending
99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more
Uh huh.
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Having used Discord, it's hard to see how anything could be behind it in terms of functionality, since "using nothing" is literally an improvement over Discord.
If you want to make a comprehensive chatroom, and specify how it works to minor details - Revolt (for instance) is far behind. If what Discord is doesn't appeal to you in the first place, then neither would any of the Discord alternatives.
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You should gatekeep Discord because it fucking sucks
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I don’t think I was condescending
99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more
Uh huh.
Sorry you're mad about the truth. Guess you're telling me you don't really have a defense. Because I certainly didn't say that
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Why do people think they're entitled to some sort of validation for their poor software choices? No one is being banned or blocked just for not using linux or for using discord. People are free to disagree with your choices- thats not gatekeeping.
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why would you care what a few hundred nerds think at all?
the fediverse is big and diverse, find a place where people aren't weird about shit (or are your kind of weird) -
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sure but like. if you moderate a comm here and wants a chatroom, please spare me from discord.
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as most major movements these days are using email mailing lists instead of social media groups
Ok. I don't know where you are, but that's definitely not the case here. It's literally all done through Facebook Groups and Events.
Same for sporting and social clubs. If you're not on Facebook, you're not getting updates.
America. I took part in the No Kings rally, among other events, and all of the information was communicated through email.
Also, sporting and social clubs? Ew.
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America. I took part in the No Kings rally, among other events, and all of the information was communicated through email.
Also, sporting and social clubs? Ew.
Email might be a good way to alert the broader public about things that have been organised. But for the smaller-scale stuff? For organising what your group's response should be to begin with? That needs to happen either face-to-face (in which case the question becomes: how do you organise a time and place for that) or on real social media. Email just isn't really cut-out for that kind of task. It doesn't have to be corporate social media. Matrix chats or a Friendica group would be just as good in theory. But in practice I've never heard of that actually being done.
And just because you're apparently anti-social or whatever, doesn't mean everyone else is. "Ew." What is it the kids say? "Touch grass"?
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If you want to make a comprehensive chatroom, and specify how it works to minor details - Revolt (for instance) is far behind. If what Discord is doesn't appeal to you in the first place, then neither would any of the Discord alternatives.
Discord is supposed to be a chatroom? I thought it was a voice chat service for videogames that didn't have it built it.
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I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.
It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.
It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally
Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.
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They said something akin to it's almost impossible to give up. But I have no intention to argue about it. My comment was more about how it read to me in the moment. I can't say exactly what they were thinking.
it's actually really easy to know what they were thinking because they were very clear with their statement, you seem to have just misread it I guess. I'm glad you don't want to argue about it because I don't want to argue either!
