The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

.world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.

'Censorship is when I'm not allowed to use the R-word.'

Just open a text file if you want to write whatever you want without dispute, the right to say what you want isn't the same as the right to be heard.

The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

Sounds like censorship to me. I'm from the old internet where if you didn't like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.

Sounds like censorship to me. I'm from the old internet where if you didn't like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.

The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

.world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.

Sounds like privilege to me. For instance I think blahaj is entirely correct to aggressively enforce a space where people aren't allowed to argue their userbase shouldn't be allowed to exist.

yes, the current internet is full of safe spaces. as it should be. people deserve to feel safe.

you've basically gone into someone elses house and criticised them for not allowing you to track mud all over their floor.

They can say they only ban for whatever reason, but then just ban for whatever they like to. Just don't disagree with them, or say something they don't like and you'll be fine. Yeah. I've got major issues with that.

The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

.world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.

Individual communities, sure, but not entire massive general instances. That's beyond stupid.

they are individual communities. that's what federation is for.

The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

I’ve never had an issue with mods or admins outside of .ml, personally. And that’s while overtly being a dick. I can’t comprehend placing .world and .ml in the same sentence.

To be fair @ptz@dubvee.org

You’re doing an impossible job by trying to basically singlehandedly create a nice curated instance while removing all the bad stuff. Which honestly is amazing. But it’s not suprising to me that with that sort of workload you’re having a tough time and the charm of the lemmyverse is fading.

Edit: Holy shit I didn’t realise you’re shutting down dubvee (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28754411). Honestly, I think that’s a very fair choice on your part given the situation. Respect.🫡

ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

If only! To be pedantic though, what Lemmy.ml actually says is:

A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers

and

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

Which (somehow?‍️🤪) translates to what you said, except... no wait, it does not? Hence it says one thing (my quotes) while doing exactly the opposite (your quotes), in point of fact.

On the other hand, there's the "trust me bro, i iz total1y relaibles" defense, otherwise known as "nuh-uh, I know you are but what am I?"

Because while it is human nature to be wrong sometimes, it might be best not to actively wallow in it? (See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, and some smaller ones such as midwest.social)