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  • ptz@dubvee.orgP ptz@dubvee.org

    The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

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    mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Depends on what they were banned for.

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    • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

      Sounds like censorship to me. I'm from the old internet where if you didn't like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.

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      feyd@programming.dev
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      Sounds like privilege to me. For instance I think blahaj is entirely correct to aggressively enforce a space where people aren't allowed to argue their userbase shouldn't be allowed to exist.

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      • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

        Sounds like censorship to me. I'm from the old internet where if you didn't like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.

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        lime@feddit.nu
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        yes, the current internet is full of safe spaces. as it should be. people deserve to feel safe.

        you've basically gone into someone elses house and criticised them for not allowing you to track mud all over their floor.

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        • ptz@dubvee.orgP ptz@dubvee.org

          The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

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          truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Aw shoot, we're the 2b2t of forums?

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          • G gullible@sh.itjust.works

            .world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

            I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.

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            coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca
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            Don't give them any attention, they're just attempting to manufacture consent for .ml is all.

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            • F feyd@programming.dev

              Sounds like privilege to me. For instance I think blahaj is entirely correct to aggressively enforce a space where people aren't allowed to argue their userbase shouldn't be allowed to exist.

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              tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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              And yet I'm not banned from there. Only massive general instances.

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              • lime@feddit.nuL lime@feddit.nu

                yes, the current internet is full of safe spaces. as it should be. people deserve to feel safe.

                you've basically gone into someone elses house and criticised them for not allowing you to track mud all over their floor.

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                tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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                Individual communities, sure, but not entire massive general instances. That's beyond stupid.

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                • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

                  They can say they only ban for whatever reason, but then just ban for whatever they like to. Just don't disagree with them, or say something they don't like and you'll be fine. Yeah. I've got major issues with that.

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                  gullible@sh.itjust.works
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                  I’ve never had an issue with mods or admins outside of .ml, personally. And that’s while overtly being a dick. I can’t comprehend placing .world and .ml in the same sentence.

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                  • ptz@dubvee.orgP ptz@dubvee.org

                    The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

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                    underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                    But the moral of the story from the episode was that they were both necessary. Vital sub-components of one complete terminally online poster. You can't really have one without the other.

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                    • G gullible@sh.itjust.works

                      .world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

                      I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.

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                      openstars@piefed.social
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                      ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

                      If only! To be pedantic though, what Lemmy.ml actually says is:

                      A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers

                      and

                      No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

                      Which (somehow?🤷‍♂️🤪) translates to what you said, except... no wait, it does not? Hence it says one thing (my quotes) while doing exactly the opposite (your quotes), in point of fact.

                      On the other hand, there's the "trust me bro, i iz total1y relaibles" defense, otherwise known as "nuh-uh, I know you are but what am I?"

                      Because while it is human nature to be wrong sometimes, it might be best not to actively wallow in it? (See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, and some smaller ones such as midwest.social)

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                      • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

                        Individual communities, sure, but not entire massive general instances. That's beyond stupid.

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                        lime@feddit.nu
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                        they are individual communities. that's what federation is for.

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                        • lime@feddit.nuL lime@feddit.nu

                          they are individual communities. that's what federation is for.

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                          tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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                          It doesn't work so well when the majority of people are concentrated in one or another. It's like going into a Reddit admins pet project sub and then getting banned completely on Reddit because you broke that sub's rules.

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                          • ptz@dubvee.orgP ptz@dubvee.org

                            The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

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                            fundmecfsresearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            To be fair @ptz@dubvee.org

                            You’re doing an impossible job by trying to basically singlehandedly create a nice curated instance while removing all the bad stuff. Which honestly is amazing. But it’s not suprising to me that with that sort of workload you’re having a tough time and the charm of the lemmyverse is fading.

                            Edit: Holy shit I didn’t realise you’re shutting down dubvee (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28754411). Honestly, I think that’s a very fair choice on your part given the situation. Respect.🫡

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                            • G gullible@sh.itjust.works

                              I’ve never had an issue with mods or admins outside of .ml, personally. And that’s while overtly being a dick. I can’t comprehend placing .world and .ml in the same sentence.

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                              tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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                              I must have pissed in an admin's Wheaties in their favorite community.

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                              • F fundmecfsresearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                To be fair @ptz@dubvee.org

                                You’re doing an impossible job by trying to basically singlehandedly create a nice curated instance while removing all the bad stuff. Which honestly is amazing. But it’s not suprising to me that with that sort of workload you’re having a tough time and the charm of the lemmyverse is fading.

                                Edit: Holy shit I didn’t realise you’re shutting down dubvee (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28754411). Honestly, I think that’s a very fair choice on your part given the situation. Respect.🫡

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                                ptz@dubvee.org
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                                Thanks. And yep. This started as a fun project 2 years ago and it turned into a nightmare. Best thing I can do is leave.

                                Thanks for being one of the sane ones lol.

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                                • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                                  ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”

                                  If only! To be pedantic though, what Lemmy.ml actually says is:

                                  A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers

                                  and

                                  No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

                                  Which (somehow?🤷‍♂️🤪) translates to what you said, except... no wait, it does not? Hence it says one thing (my quotes) while doing exactly the opposite (your quotes), in point of fact.

                                  On the other hand, there's the "trust me bro, i iz total1y relaibles" defense, otherwise known as "nuh-uh, I know you are but what am I?"

                                  Because while it is human nature to be wrong sometimes, it might be best not to actively wallow in it? (See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, and some smaller ones such as midwest.social)

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                                  belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  does this count as bigotry?
                                  or this?

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                                  • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

                                    I must have pissed in an admin's Wheaties in their favorite community.

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                                    gullible@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Having looked through your modlog, it seems like you had a bit of trouble adjusting to the only newly broadly accepted ways that men and women can characterize themselves. It’s an adjustment, to be sure. Particularly without context.

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                                    • G gullible@sh.itjust.works

                                      Having looked through your modlog, it seems like you had a bit of trouble adjusting to the only newly broadly accepted ways that men and women can characterize themselves. It’s an adjustment, to be sure. Particularly without context.

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                                      tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Mine is a fairly broadly held opinion in the general public. Not well represented in niche online spaces though.

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                                      • T tb0n3@sh.itjust.works

                                        Individual communities, sure, but not entire massive general instances. That's beyond stupid.

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                                        teft@piefed.world
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                                        Instances are groups of like minded communities. To extend the earlier metaphor it'd be like going to a town that doesn't allow cars and you decide to ride your motorcycle down the sidewalks blasting all the houses with noize they don't want to hear.

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                                        • ptz@dubvee.orgP ptz@dubvee.org

                                          The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.

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                                          lazycog@sopuli.xyz
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                                          I'm really sorry to hear you burnt out and of your experience. Thanks for all you have done for threadiverse and tesseract. Hope you get a peace of mind after 31st.

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