By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis.
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@alexia aren't you risking like a million CVEs sticking with old chromium? i have similarly old hardware and i usually just grumble, install firefox ESR, and pay the price
@imyxh this device is vulnerable to a flaw in the SoC allowing for privilege escalation and has no concept of Verified Boot or dm-verity
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems
i mean i imagine the infrastructure isn't built around having a modernish phone
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@alexia @niko And in the open source version: https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/challenges/metarefresh
The paid one is something I'm actively finishing and involves every single way I can trick a browser into loading things from pages with and without JavaScript.
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I mean yeah sure I'm getting a pixel soon but only thanks to fundraising
god knows how many people are out there which aren't as fortunate as me and cannot just get a newer device
what do like the majority of people in idk Cuba or something do, they don't even got most newer devices over there@alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.
How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)
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@alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.
How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)
@carbonatedcaffeine
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In other words, I encourage you to look to other solutions.
Some that I know of in no particular order:
- go-away – alternative with No-JS challenges and more customizability
- Iocaine – actively poison AI scrapers, best paired with nam shub of enki configuration
I heard mumbles that Anubis is also getting No-Javascript methods eventually, but I don't know more than that.
Anubis has No-Javascript challenges, there's some more advanced ones in the paid offering
(feel free to add to that list, I had something bookmarked but I've lost it on my old phone)@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work My site, as well as @enjarai's, are both under Iocaine. It's worth noting that if it's configured very aggressively, it will block Brave and Opera for pretending to be a different browser. x3
But it seems to be pretty effective (more so than Anubis, at least) and doesn't require deploying JS in the frontend. :3 -
@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work My site, as well as @enjarai's, are both under Iocaine. It's worth noting that if it's configured very aggressively, it will block Brave and Opera for pretending to be a different browser. x3
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai Probably better than handing them the Markov pages.
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle amazing. im always happy to hear about folk helping poison the shit of of these models
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle o! how do you recognise them? that seems like something i should do as well
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle amazing. im always happy to hear about folk helping poison the shit of of these models
i hope it will have a real effect eventually. the bubble needs to pop already@enjarai @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work :3 :3 :3
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle o! how do you recognise them? that seems like something i should do as well
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai I have never heard of that header.
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai I have never heard of that header.
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@carbonatedcaffeine
honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it@alexia @carbonatedcaffeine 15??? it should be a lifetime!
unless, againg, it breaks
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@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai This is... silly.
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@izzy yeah I know I can just set my user-agent to like, curl, but that's a hack and doesn't solve it for all those other people which is the main thin I'm trying to critique
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By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.
This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.@alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work I stopped using Anubis because I found better alternatives, and currently there's nothing in between.
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@carbonatedcaffeine
honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it@alexia I think it will be feasible. Hopefully applications won't require 8GB of memory just to function in the future. That would be absurd.
My main concern is the availability of battery replacements. It would make it much easier if there was a battery size and connection standard in the future. But since all phones are different shapes and sizes that wouldn't work.
The Fairphone is probably the best in terms of what we want. But it's a lot of money and isn't available to purchase from my country. The PinePhone also uses a J7 sized battery which can still be found on ebay. But the device isn't made to last.
