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By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis.

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  • piku@blahaj.zoneP piku@blahaj.zone

    @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems
    i mean i imagine the infrastructure isn't built around having a modernish phone
    like
    until 2019 2020ish my grandma lived pretty fine on her own with just a feature phone

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    @piku @alexia fair point!

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    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
      @niko fixed
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      @alexia @niko And in the open source version: https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/challenges/metarefresh

      The paid one is something I'm actively finishing and involves every single way I can trick a browser into loading things from pages with and without JavaScript.

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      • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
        @carbonatedcaffeine

        I mean yeah sure I'm getting a pixel soon but only thanks to fundraising

        god knows how many people are out there which aren't as fortunate as me and cannot just get a newer device

        what do like the majority of people in idk Cuba or something do, they don't even got most newer devices over there
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        @alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.

        How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)

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        • carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systemsC carbonatedcaffeine@social.treehouse.systems

          @alexia that's a good question actually. I'm sure it would affect a lot of people from those areas then.

          How long do you think mobile devices should realistically be usable for? (At least 10 years for web browser use, surely?)

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          @carbonatedcaffeine

          honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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          • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
            In other words, I encourage you to look to other solutions.

            Some that I know of in no particular order:
            -
            go-away – alternative with No-JS challenges and more customizability
            -
            Iocaine – actively poison AI scrapers, best paired with nam shub of enki configuration

            I heard mumbles that Anubis is also getting No-Javascript methods eventually, but I don't know more than that.

            Anubis has No-Javascript challenges, there's some more advanced ones in the paid offering

            (feel free to add to that list, I had something bookmarked but I've lost it on my old phone)
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            @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work My site, as well as @enjarai's, are both under Iocaine. It's worth noting that if it's configured very aggressively, it will block Brave and Opera for pretending to be a different browser. x3

            But it seems to be pretty effective (more so than Anubis, at least) and doesn't require deploying JS in the frontend. :3

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            • aurakle@evy.petA aurakle@evy.pet

              @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work My site, as well as @enjarai's, are both under Iocaine. It's worth noting that if it's configured very aggressively, it will block Brave and Opera for pretending to be a different browser. x3

              But it seems to be pretty effective (more so than Anubis, at least) and doesn't require deploying JS in the frontend. :3

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              @aurakle @enjarai

              the entirety of starlight network projects and my personal site is under iocaine :333
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              • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                @aurakle @enjarai

                the entirety of starlight network projects and my personal site is under iocaine :333
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                @enjarai @aurakle I've also added a caddy rule to redirect brave users to the "Please stop using Brave" post
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                • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                  @enjarai @aurakle I've also added a caddy rule to redirect brave users to the "Please stop using Brave" post
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                  @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai Probably better than handing them the Markov pages. ​​

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                  • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                    @aurakle @enjarai

                    the entirety of starlight network projects and my personal site is under iocaine :333
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                    @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle amazing. im always happy to hear about folk helping poison the shit of of these models ​​

                    i hope it will have a real effect eventually. the bubble needs to pop already

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                    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                      @enjarai @aurakle I've also added a caddy rule to redirect brave users to the "Please stop using Brave" post
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                      @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle o! how do you recognise them? that seems like something i should do as well

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                      • enjarai@evy.petE enjarai@evy.pet

                        @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle amazing. im always happy to hear about folk helping poison the shit of of these models ​​

                        i hope it will have a real effect eventually. the bubble needs to pop already

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                        @enjarai @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work :3 :3 :3

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                        • enjarai@evy.petE enjarai@evy.pet

                          @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @aurakle o! how do you recognise them? that seems like something i should do as well

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                          @enjarai @aurakle they advertise themselves in the Sec-Ch-Ua header
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                          • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                            @enjarai @aurakle they advertise themselves in the Sec-Ch-Ua header
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                            @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai I have never heard of that header. 😭

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                            • aurakle@evy.petA aurakle@evy.pet

                              @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai I have never heard of that header. 😭

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                              @aurakle @enjarai

                              developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Headers/Sec-CH-UA
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                              • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                @carbonatedcaffeine

                                honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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                                @alexia @carbonatedcaffeine 15??? it should be a lifetime!

                                unless, againg, it breaks

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                                • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                  @aurakle @enjarai

                                  developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Headers/Sec-CH-UA
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                                  @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work @enjarai This is... silly. ​​

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                                  • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                    @izzy yeah I know I can just set my user-agent to like, curl, but that's a hack and doesn't solve it for all those other people which is the main thin I'm trying to critique
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                                    @alexia @izzy oo

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                                    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                      By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                                      This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                                      @alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work I stopped using Anubis because I found better alternatives, and currently there's nothing in between.

                                      I dropped it because it drove people off and broke many things such as git

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                                      • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                        @carbonatedcaffeine

                                        honestly in my optimal dream world you'd be able to buy a device and use it for 15 years straight, only having to repair it when damaged but not outright replace it
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                                        @alexia I think it will be feasible. Hopefully applications won't require 8GB of memory just to function in the future. That would be absurd.

                                        My main concern is the availability of battery replacements. It would make it much easier if there was a battery size and connection standard in the future. But since all phones are different shapes and sizes that wouldn't work.

                                        The Fairphone is probably the best in terms of what we want. But it's a lot of money and isn't available to purchase from my country. The PinePhone also uses a J7 sized battery which can still be found on ebay. But the device isn't made to last.

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                                        • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                          By the way, I am now officially tied to a device which is too old to support Anubis. Not just in the "it takes too long" sense, but also being unable to install any version of Chromium that supports the required APIs.

                                          This is probably what a lot of people which are less fortunate than you feel like.
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                                          @alexia And thus, not only does it not actually accomplish anything, it also entirely blocks legitimate users.

                                          Impressive⸮
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