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  • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    If mastodon disappeared tomorrow it would be chaos. Loads of servers would shut down, and the rest would switch to a fork.
    It would do irreapable damage to the fediverse, since mastodon basically controls the spec (the w3 thing is more of a collection of suggestions).

    AT is infinietly easier to work with as well.

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    mesamunefire@piefed.social
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    Again as a Dev, I have to disagree.

    How can mastodon disappear? By definition, its on open platforms and self hosted solutions. It cant. And we are using the spec to talk right now.

    And as a Dev AT really isn't easier to work with. I've tried hooking it up multiple times and while I can do it, its such a pain. And debug is pretty terrible experience. But its a an opinion on both sides.

    You seem very invested in the protocol. Why if I may ask?

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      Again as a Dev, I have to disagree.

      How can mastodon disappear? By definition, its on open platforms and self hosted solutions. It cant. And we are using the spec to talk right now.

      And as a Dev AT really isn't easier to work with. I've tried hooking it up multiple times and while I can do it, its such a pain. And debug is pretty terrible experience. But its a an opinion on both sides.

      You seem very invested in the protocol. Why if I may ask?

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      Have you built anything on AP? It's a pain. A poorly documented headache inducing pain.

      I didn't say mastodon would disappear, I said it would cause irreparable damage to the network. Bluesky/atproto won't disappear without Bluesky PBC, but it would cause irreparable damage to the network.

      Obviously mastodon is in a better position for this to happen.

      I'm not really invested in the protocol, I prefer AP honestly, but everyone here is annoyingly elitest about the fediverse.

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      • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Have you built anything on AP? It's a pain. A poorly documented headache inducing pain.

        I didn't say mastodon would disappear, I said it would cause irreparable damage to the network. Bluesky/atproto won't disappear without Bluesky PBC, but it would cause irreparable damage to the network.

        Obviously mastodon is in a better position for this to happen.

        I'm not really invested in the protocol, I prefer AP honestly, but everyone here is annoyingly elitest about the fediverse.

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        mesamunefire@piefed.social
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        #62

        Yep! Your using it now 😉 at least a very little bit if your URL is correct.

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          Yep! Your using it now 😉 at least a very little bit if your URL is correct.

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          irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          A little bit of what? sorry, this makes no sense to me.

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          • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            No. Their hosting costs would be the same regardless of how many people self host.

            You get all the benefits of self hosting from appviews.

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            monogram@feddit.nl
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            If it did, ofcom would need to call up each person hosting content on the atprotocol, no, bluesky is the one and only that has affective access, with abilities to sensor, on your hosted content.

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            • S socsa@piefed.social

              I thought the books were aggressively mediocre YA trash from the start.

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              buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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              Careful not to cut yourself on that edge.

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              • M monogram@feddit.nl

                If it did, ofcom would need to call up each person hosting content on the atprotocol, no, bluesky is the one and only that has affective access, with abilities to sensor, on your hosted content.

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                irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                No. On app.wafrn.net (fedi/bluesky tumblr clone) they have no control.

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                • M mesamunefire@piefed.social

                  Personally, its as simple as the ATProtocol is hard connected to Bluesky full stop. If Bluesky goes under, then AT will definitely suffer or fail.

                  The fediverse (AKA ActivityPub) is not reliant on just one entity, its many many entities implementing the same protocol. So its MUCH more resilient than AT.

                  But the good news is that we don't need to choose, as long as AP and AT both exist and keep going its going to be fine. The only issue becomes if services start only using AT over AP. Then we get a Microsoft situation where embrace extend extinguish occurs and we all become reliant on one not so benevolent corporation.

                  Im still going to root for the more open source protocol for the above reasons.

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                  zagorath@aussie.zone
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                  #67

                  Do you mean it's reliant in some sort of technical way, or just that it is currently so dominated by BS that it's hard to meaningfully separate the protocol from the platform in practice? Kinda like if ML was 90% of the Lemmy market share?

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                  • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

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                    #68

                    Hilarious considering one of their flagship features is community tags for content moderation. You'd think the TERF enablers would suggest tagging it as "non-TERF" or whatever. But no. Fuck em. Bluesky sucks anyways. They have comically short DM lengths and don't allow images.

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                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      No. On app.wafrn.net (fedi/bluesky tumblr clone) they have no control.

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                      monogram@feddit.nl
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                      Looks like app.wafrn.net still depends on the relay (that thing that costs billions in hosting)

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                      • M monogram@feddit.nl

                        Looks like app.wafrn.net still depends on the relay (that thing that costs billions in hosting)

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                        irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #70

                        app.wafrn.net does use bluesky's relay, but they can switch to another one (like atproto.africa).

                        Hosting relays has gotten cheaper, it's only about $34 a month now.

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                        • comraderachel@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC comraderachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          Jessie gender got their account suspended because they said they wish ill to JKR. Was like the most polite insults you could say lol

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                          recursiveparadox@lemmy.world
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                          #71

                          The mods walked that back right away.

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                          • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

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                            • flamingos@feddit.ukF flamingos@feddit.uk

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                              korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              Bsky, mastodon, whatever. Microblogging is a trash format that we should move on from.

                              I actively wish JK harm.

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                              • korthrun@lemmy.sdf.orgK korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org

                                Bsky, mastodon, whatever. Microblogging is a trash format that we should move on from.

                                I actively wish JK harm.

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                                Luckily here on Lemmy is a whole different story 🤣🤣🤣

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