Facebook is central to my life. I use it because that’s where local support groups for the disease I have are. I need this location-specific information to keep up to date on disability benefits and so on. Not everything is about politics.

that isn't what Zagorath said though

That sounds like a defensible use of it.

You can safely assume that most Fedi users that are still on Facebook have a defensible use of it. It’s quite unlikely that anyone around here uses it for entertainment which is why the tone you or others use is unnecessarily condescending.

Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.

you butchered the hell out of that format

I don't think I was condescending. It's possible you're just tired of hearing about this topic.

And no, I cannot assume that at all. 99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.

If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.

Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.

no but fr. we need a better alternate than the matrix and XMPP protocol, theyre both too buggy. I use them but fuck its annoying sometimes

Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.

I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.

There is being a dick about facts people don't want to hear and there's better deliveries. I can't disagree at all that the world is worse because of Facebook or that people using it is the only reason it can make the world worse. But I'm trying to be less of a dick about it. I try not to be one of those extremists.

One of the problems with Facebook is also present on Lemmy, which is where people dehumanize each other and act like total extremist dicks. At least on Lemmy, it's not generally going to pay dickheads who profit from that or for genocide or other suffering.

It's a complicated world out there but some facts aren't complicated and that increases the likelihood of people being blunt extremist dicks about those facts. Sucks but that's just how it is

Have you seen anyone on Fedi saying „yeah, I need Facebook because otherwise where would I get my daily AI shrimp Jesus fix?”. Your mental health will improve when you stop assuming everyone you don’t like is evil.

I don't think I was condescending. It's possible you're just tired of hearing about this topic.

And no, I cannot assume that at all. 99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

Having used Discord, it's hard to see how anything could be behind it in terms of functionality, since "using nothing" is literally an improvement over Discord.

I don’t think I was condescending

99% of fb use is indefensible, if not more

Uh huh.