#askFedi Does anybody know if there is an #ActivityPub software that *produces* multilingual objects leveraging the contentMap feature?
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#askFedi Does anybody know if there is an #ActivityPub software that *produces* multilingual objects leveraging the contentMap feature?
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#askFedi Does anybody know if there is an #ActivityPub software that *produces* multilingual objects leveraging the contentMap feature?
#askFedi would you like to have the possibility to make multilingual (ML) posts, i.e. a *single* post with the text available in multiple languages *at once*? Currently, you have to either do separate posts, or squeeze multiple languages within your server's character limit, and only mark it for one of the languages (see e.g. https://sociale.network/@oblomov/110872023337803783 + https://sociale.network/@oblomov/114983566130691059).
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#askFedi would you like to have the possibility to make multilingual (ML) posts, i.e. a *single* post with the text available in multiple languages *at once*? Currently, you have to either do separate posts, or squeeze multiple languages within your server's character limit, and only mark it for one of the languages (see e.g. https://sociale.network/@oblomov/110872023337803783 + https://sociale.network/@oblomov/114983566130691059).
(Select appropriate option based on whether you're a native English speaker.)
Relevant Mastodon issues:
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/6920
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11013
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/22766
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/23698
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/24011
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/16692(EDIT: found more, variants of the issue are more popular than I had initially envisioned.)
TBH, I find the comments suggesting that “DeepL [or any other client-side translation service] is enough” to be appalling.
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Relevant Mastodon issues:
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/6920
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11013
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/22766
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/23698
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/24011
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/16692(EDIT: found more, variants of the issue are more popular than I had initially envisioned.)
TBH, I find the comments suggesting that “DeepL [or any other client-side translation service] is enough” to be appalling.
@oblomov I don't think that posting messages in multiple languages is the solution
Client side translation is enough, only it should be made easier to have them (less steps, less clicks, maybe a button right there)
There could be cases where it's necessary to have a translation by the author (difficult or ambiguous or not poetic translations by local software) -
@oblomov I don't think that posting messages in multiple languages is the solution
Client side translation is enough, only it should be made easier to have them (less steps, less clicks, maybe a button right there)
There could be cases where it's necessary to have a translation by the author (difficult or ambiguous or not poetic translations by local software)@filobus hard disagree. Client-side translation should only be considerd a low-quality fallback for the cases where the author did not/could not provide a translation themselves. Allowing users to provide their own translations is an important step to improve the internationalization of the Fediverse.
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@filobus hard disagree. Client-side translation should only be considerd a low-quality fallback for the cases where the author did not/could not provide a translation themselves. Allowing users to provide their own translations is an important step to improve the internationalization of the Fediverse.
@oblomov it is not so clear: the author should provide a translation in... English? Or all the languages of all the readers? Esperanto? The author should be very proficient, and who is not? Software translation could be even better, but the author could not use it because thinks it's better h* own
Author should have time and put much effortAnd one thing doesn't exclude the other, the reader is free to use client's software, the author is free to provide different translations
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