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  3. #TIL about #Harmony, a bleeding-edge project to build a decentralised replacement for Miscord using ActivityPub, E2EE using Vodozemac, a cryptography library used in Matrix software;

#TIL about #Harmony, a bleeding-edge project to build a decentralised replacement for Miscord using ActivityPub, E2EE using Vodozemac, a cryptography library used in Matrix software;

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  • alteredspecifis@social.linux.pizzaA alteredspecifis@social.linux.pizza

    @strypey @rl_dane

    What i'd like to see is the option to join/invite into single channels rather than joining a full and potentially messy "server"/guild.

    Similar to what matrix has with "spaces"
    where i can have the channels i am mostly interested in easy to see
    rahter than whole "servers" that might be.

    Next i hope they don't go down the messy path discord has done with their facebook inspired modus operandi

    for example notifiying me when anything sends a message anywhere or otherwise wants to grab my attention for something that doesnt require my involvment.

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    @alteredspecifis
    > Similar to what matrix has with "spaces"

    I've thought for a while it seemed logical to replace Miscord with Matrix apps that mimic the UX of using Miscord, connected to a vanilla Matrix server. The idea of combining ActivityPub federation with Matrix E2EE is innovative, and I'm very curious to see how it works out.

    @rl_dane

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    • strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nzS strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz

      @rl_dane
      > Looks neat!

      I don't want to get too excited yet, because the last time I got hyped about a new fediverse app it turned out to be made by auto-generating code. But the fact that the code declares itself alpha, and not ready for production use, suggests a more traditional coding practice 🤞

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      @strypey @rl_dane It's slop, you can easily tell that from commit messages

      Have you tried Shoot? https://github.com/maddyunderstars/shoot
      It's another ActivityPub-based group messaging app

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        @rl_dane @smallcircles @strypey

        Yup!

        I bumped into it in a book about personal investing. Don't believe the hype.

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        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

          @strypey @rl_dane

          I am not mixing in the discussion that rages on. I am generally anti-AI/LLM for the utterly disruptive way it is introduced into society and damn all externalities, and the parties (Big Tech, Big Corpo et al, Epstein class) who are the main drivers. That makes it inhumane technology, atm. There will likely be a big crash ending the Tulip mania, but I expect these LLMs to still be around at the other end of that crash.

          But about that spectrum.. there are highly skilled developers who use LLMs to create or port huge codebases while keeping firmly in control of the output that is created, applying a set of AI skills they carefully mastered. The term "vibe coding" may not be accurate here, as these folks know what they are doing and stand behind the code that's being created.

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          @smallcircles
          > The term "vibe coding" may not be accurate here, as these folks know what they are doing and stand behind the code that's being created

          Fair point. That's why, in the fediverse.party issue and wikipage I started to explore the topic, I used more neutral terms like "code auto-generation" and "auto-generated code".

          @rl_dane

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            @rl_dane Fair enough. Comments on that issue discussion are welcome, so they become part of the deliberation process that will eventually form a detailed policy.

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            • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

              @strypey @rl_dane It's slop, you can easily tell that from commit messages

              Have you tried Shoot? https://github.com/maddyunderstars/shoot
              It's another ActivityPub-based group messaging app

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              @silverpill
              > Have you tried Shoot?

              No, thanks for the link. I'll add it to the watchlist.

              @rl_dane

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              • strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nzS strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz

                #TIL about #Harmony, a bleeding-edge project to build a decentralised replacement for Miscord using ActivityPub, E2EE using Vodozemac, a cryptography library used in Matrix software;

                https://joinharmony.app/

                Source code is on GritHub, under AGPL;

                https://github.com/zcharef/harmony

                Anyone know anything about this? So far I haven't been able to find fediverse accounts for the project itself, or the creator.

                #fediverse #ActivityPub #Vodozemac #Matrix

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                @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz AAAAAAA
                Please stop using name Harmony, please!
                It's:
                1. Abandoned chat protocol
                2. Fork of Spacebar
                3. ActivityPub discord alternative (slop too btw)
                4. This one
                5. Matrix client

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                • strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nzS strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz

                  @silverpill
                  > Have you tried Shoot?

                  No, thanks for the link. I'll add it to the watchlist.

                  @rl_dane

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                  @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz if you would like to try without hosting, the invite to official instance are available at maddy's fediverse page (or just ask here, i hope it doesnt expire yet)

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                    @doesnm
                    > Please stop using name Harmony, please!

                    I agree. It's obvious, trite, and already heavily overused. Feel like opening some issues to that affect on their forges?

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                      @doesnm
                      > or just ask her

                      Where is here?

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