Friends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags.pub to boost your public tagged posts.
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Friends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags.pub to boost your public tagged posts.
Just search for @_followback in your Mastodon UI. Click the follow button there. (Don't try to follow from the profile page; it doesn't work yet.)
It will follow you back, and when you make a post with a hashtag in it, the server will boost your post from the appropriate hashtag.
@evan I'm reluctant to let a bot like this follow me, because it would also be able to see my followers only posts.
Now Evan, in this case you're my good buddy and you see those posts anyway; but I wouldn't want to leak them to a bot on principle.
What is *want* in an ideal world is the ability to distinguish types of subscriptions with access to subsets of my posts under my control, like the old Google+ Circles thing.
I see the network benefits of a bot like this for pushing public posts around to more servers, and I'd probably happily let it follow just my public posts.
(I trust *you* not to make an evil bot, but it won't always be you asking for these things, and even awesome people sometimes make security mistakes writing bots, or their tool gets taken over by someone else in the future that I might trust less.)
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@evan I'm reluctant to let a bot like this follow me, because it would also be able to see my followers only posts.
Now Evan, in this case you're my good buddy and you see those posts anyway; but I wouldn't want to leak them to a bot on principle.
What is *want* in an ideal world is the ability to distinguish types of subscriptions with access to subsets of my posts under my control, like the old Google+ Circles thing.
I see the network benefits of a bot like this for pushing public posts around to more servers, and I'd probably happily let it follow just my public posts.
(I trust *you* not to make an evil bot, but it won't always be you asking for these things, and even awesome people sometimes make security mistakes writing bots, or their tool gets taken over by someone else in the future that I might trust less.)
@brooke of course. And you're someone sophisticated enough to actually look at the code and see that it ignores non-public posts, but not everyone can do that.
Since you have your own instance, you could also use the relay interface. It only sends public posts. https://tags.pub/#connect has the details.
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@julian I commented on the ticket! Looks like we can both make some changes to make this more robust. I'm going to push and test today.
@evan@cosocial.ca confirming that I am now able to follow the followback bot <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=752eb5a3704" title="
" />Still unable to establish the relay, however, so I opened a ticket on the SWF repo there.
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@evan@cosocial.ca confirming that I am now able to follow the followback bot <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=752eb5a3704" title="
" />Still unable to establish the relay, however, so I opened a ticket on the SWF repo there.
@julian OK, I'll take a look!
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@evan@cosocial.ca confirming that I am now able to follow the followback bot <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=752eb5a3704" title="
" />Still unable to establish the relay, however, so I opened a ticket on the SWF repo there.
@julian awesome!
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Is this only for Mastodon? I tried to follow that account from Pixelfed but it cannot find it
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Is this only for Mastodon? I tried to follow that account from Pixelfed but it cannot find it
@dineinfr thanks, I'll check!
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Friends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags.pub to boost your public tagged posts.
Just search for @_followback in your Mastodon UI. Click the follow button there. (Don't try to follow from the profile page; it doesn't work yet.)
It will follow you back, and when you make a post with a hashtag in it, the server will boost your post from the appropriate hashtag.
@evan@cosocial.ca Hi, I've filed an issue on tags.pub regarding RFC 9421 HTTP Message Signatures compatibility. tags.pub rejects
Content-Digestheaders with “No digest provided,” which prevents Fedify 2.1+ servers from following tags.pub accounts. -
@evan@cosocial.ca Hi, I've filed an issue on tags.pub regarding RFC 9421 HTTP Message Signatures compatibility. tags.pub rejects
Content-Digestheaders with “No digest provided,” which prevents Fedify 2.1+ servers from following tags.pub accounts.@hongminhee awesome! Thanks for the detective work. I'll catch us right up.
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@brooke of course. And you're someone sophisticated enough to actually look at the code and see that it ignores non-public posts, but not everyone can do that.
Since you have your own instance, you could also use the relay interface. It only sends public posts. https://tags.pub/#connect has the details.
@brooke what did you end up doing?
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@brooke what did you end up doing?
@evan nothin' yet, i ain't in a rush
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@mayintoronto one reason is because your friend Evan asked you to do it as a favour.
Another reason is that when you "follow" a hashtag in Mastodon, it only filters the content that got to your server for other reasons.
There are three ways that content arrived: either you follow the author, someone else on your server follows the author, or your server is subscribed to a relay.
tags.pub lets you follow a hashtag globally, not just filter what got to your server.
@evan @mayintoronto Of course the centralization aspect is a bit worrisome, but another aspect might be interesting here if you decentralize it. It would allow to disambiguate tags, e.g.
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@mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto
You can definitely opt out of tags.pub! Nobody has to use it if they don't want to.
You can follow hashtags in Mastodon; many other servers on the Fediverse don't have that feature.
When you follow a hashtag in Mastodon, it only shows you content from people you follow, or from people who others on your instance follow. If someone posts on the Fediverse using a hashtag and nobody on your instance follows them, you won't see it.
@evan @mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto so after 2 years just now learning how hashtags work here - or more accurately, *don’t* work here - and honestly this is a smh moment for me. Aren’t we on a social network to communicate? Why why why design things in a way that intentionally silos groups and cripples the way hashtags are supposed to work (and do work, everywhere else)?
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@evan @mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto so after 2 years just now learning how hashtags work here - or more accurately, *don’t* work here - and honestly this is a smh moment for me. Aren’t we on a social network to communicate? Why why why design things in a way that intentionally silos groups and cripples the way hashtags are supposed to work (and do work, everywhere else)?
️@giantspecks @mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto Hi John! I agree, you should be able to follow hashtags globally across the Fediverse. That's why we're making tags.pub.
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@evan @mayintoronto Of course the centralization aspect is a bit worrisome, but another aspect might be interesting here if you decentralize it. It would allow to disambiguate tags, e.g.
#diner@tags.usvs#diner@tags.qc.cavs#diner@tags.fr@monnier @mayintoronto we have three tag-following services right now, and tags.pub is free and open source software, so it's possible to have more. I'd really support that.
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Friends, if you haven't already, it would be a big favour to me if you could enable tags.pub to boost your public tagged posts.
Just search for @_followback in your Mastodon UI. Click the follow button there. (Don't try to follow from the profile page; it doesn't work yet.)
It will follow you back, and when you make a post with a hashtag in it, the server will boost your post from the appropriate hashtag.
@_followback@tags.pub @evan@cosocial.ca
It just tells me that I'm awaiting approval
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@giantspecks @mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto Hi John! I agree, you should be able to follow hashtags globally across the Fediverse. That's why we're making tags.pub.
@evan @giantspecks @jakebrake @mayintoronto There has to be a better way then requiring us to find and follow an ever-growing multitude of accounts on a specific instance. #TagsDotPubIsAnUglyHack
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@evan @mlanger @jakebrake @mayintoronto so after 2 years just now learning how hashtags work here - or more accurately, *don’t* work here - and honestly this is a smh moment for me. Aren’t we on a social network to communicate? Why why why design things in a way that intentionally silos groups and cripples the way hashtags are supposed to work (and do work, everywhere else)?
️@giantspecks @evan @jakebrake @mayintoronto This is what I want to know.
Expecting us to follow bot accounts to see hashtags is absurd. How many users are going to do that, especially if they believe that hashtags work the way we were told they do?
There has to be a better solution. #TagsDotPubIsAnUglyHack
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@giantspecks @evan @jakebrake @mayintoronto This is what I want to know.
Expecting us to follow bot accounts to see hashtags is absurd. How many users are going to do that, especially if they believe that hashtags work the way we were told they do?
There has to be a better solution. #TagsDotPubIsAnUglyHack
@mlanger@mastodon.world the great thing about open source is that if you don't like it, you are under no obligation to use it.
What's interesting about tags.pub to me is that I as a server administrator can subscribe to tags on behalf of my users, no end-user involvement required. We already do this via the fedibuzz relay, but having more options is always a net positive.
> Expecting us to follow bot accounts to see hashtags is absurd.
If you don't like this workflow, simply don't use it. It's entirely possible that Mastodon could abstract this away so that you don't see tags.pub at all, but every time you follow a hashtag it does everything in the background for you.
@evan@cosocial.ca is building the plumbing to solve a very real problem.
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@julian We apparently agree that expecting us to follow bot accounts to see hashtags is absurd. But that's how it looks to me.
Are you saying that this is under the hood stuff and we are not expected to follow bot accounts? That somehow these accounts will transparently deliver the hashtags we follow? If so, it's a huge mistake to notify users that an instantly created bot account has boosted a post.
And again, I think the bigger problem is hashtag abuse. I hope someone is working on that.
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